another accident.....

Another one:(.The family of a young man that died in a crash at that junction have been trying for some time to get a roundabout put there to reduce the number of accidents that happen in that spot.Wonder how they're getting on with that and how much longer it's going to take:confused:
 
Beurocracy works slowly - I believe a roundabout is scheduled.
I used to live in Belthorn and crossed that junction twice a day - so know how bad it is.
 
It is a horrendous junction and one of the main problems is that it is the highest point of all the roads that meet there so you just can't see anything approaching from another direction. How many more deaths before something is finally done?
 
I understand the issue but I use the crossing twice a day (to and from work) and have done for 9 years and I've not seen an accident.
Does anyone know how many accidents happen there and how much more likely you are to have an accident there than other blackspots
 
I understand the issue but I use the crossing twice a day (to and from work) and have done for 9 years and I've not seen an accident.
Does anyone know how many accidents happen there and how much more likely you are to have an accident there than other blackspots
have used the junction for at least 25 yrs gobbiner, though very infrequently n have seen 3 accidents in that time, have read of many more at that junction,so i suppose its the luck of the draw.dont doubt for 1 min, how horrendous the junction is, have had a near do myself yrs ago coming from the match.
 
I understand the issue but I use the crossing twice a day (to and from work) and have done for 9 years and I've not seen an accident.
Does anyone know how many accidents happen there and how much more likely you are to have an accident there than other blackspots

Very Bad juncton is that.

AS for likelyhood of having a accident there as opposed to other locations is hard to say, however When a RTA involves a death there is a set fund IIRC that is spent to improve so I would expect a change in the future.
 
Really think traffic lights are the way to go there but if a roundabout helps then so be it. Does anybody else think roundabouts cause more confusion??
 
Really think traffic lights are the way to go there but if a roundabout helps then so be it. Does anybody else think roundabouts cause more confusion??

This is true Bernie .. roundabouts are not as safe as lights due to human judgement; must be a problem with lights for the transport planners, as road traffic management considers safety above all other issues. Must be a reason of some sort.
 
Sorry Bernie dissagree. I personaly think roundabouts work much better than traffic lights. and just as a for instance when traffic lights are out there always seems to be less chance of an accident because the traffic is much slower.
 
Only going by the roundabout outside my house and the accidents that happen there. Just seems to me that on a road tha is notorious for speeding traffic lights would be the better option. I am not a driver so some folk mght think my opinions don't qualify for consideration but just the way I see things. (that was not aimed at you Cherokee) Personally think a roundabout is the cheaper option and traffic lights would be better given the blind bend in the road!!
 
Only going by the roundabout outside my house and the accidents that happen there. Just seems to me that on a road tha is notorious for speeding traffic lights would be the better option. I am not a driver so some folk mght think my opinions don't qualify for consideration but just the way I see things. (that was not aimed at you Cherokee) Personally think a roundabout is the cheaper option and traffic lights would be better given the blind bend in the road!!



Didnt for one min think it was bernie. :D I do understand your reasoning though. I suppose it could also depend on the location tbh.
 
the one outside yer house bernie is a mini-roundabout which are about as much use as a "fart in a spacesuit" hopefully at £800.000 the one up at the Brittania junction will be a proper one? :confused: if so i think thats preferable to lights.
 
Sorry Bernie dissagree. I personaly think roundabouts work much better than traffic lights. and just as a for instance when traffic lights are out there always seems to be less chance of an accident because the traffic is much slower.

I think when lights are out Cherokee, people are slightly more polite to the minor road as they know should be some lights there and are a little more hesitant and tolerant, whereby, if never been any lights the major road user would completely ignore the minor road user and give no leeway .. hope this makes sense ... :confused:
 
LOL Makes perfect sense lily , I agree drivers are more careful at disrupted junctions that if no control at all but thats where the roundabout comes in. It does slow traffic down but sadly whatever they put there it wont stop some speeding boy racer trying to beat the rest of the traffic and driving into the path of another car , One only hopes it will slow them down .
 
The thing about Traffic Lights is if the driver is not going to stop they wont and at least with a roundabout (providing it is large enough) is that most drivers will slow to a safe speed to be able to access and egress the roundabout with safety AND if there is traffic coming from YOUR right it will have right-of-way.
 
And do you think that idiots that don't give a damn about the speed limits will give way to traffic coming from their right?? Sorry but I doubt it very much!!
 
the one outside yer house bernie is a mini-roundabout which are about as much use as a "fart in a spacesuit" hopefully at £800.000 the one up at the Brittania junction will be a proper one? :confused: if so i think thats preferable to lights.

The biggest problem I have found at mini roundabouts is drivers who have right of way giving way to drivers who have to give way.
Causes utter confusion.Give way to the right like a proper round about.:alright:
 
I have seen the plans for this roundabout at an Area Council meeting, about 2 years ago. It is not a mini roundabout, it is a big roundabout. As you approach the junction from the Ossy side the roundabout will be to the left of the current road partly in the field. Yes I know what you are all thinking, why have they just spent our money resurfacing the footpaths next to the junction that will be dug up for the new roundabout? :mad: Maybe Dorothy could answer that, I am sure she reads this site ( don't they all? ;)

They can not put lights on the junction as it would not comply with some road building regulations. It was also stated that some people would ignore the lights at night with them being out of the way.

Incidently it was stated that the roundabout may stop accidents caused by the crossroads but that accidents could occur on the roundabout just like at any roundabout and that it was not a perfect solution to the problem. I don't suppose you can have a perfect round junction unless you remove all the vehicles :D


LCC have moved very slowly with this scheme. Like I said the plans were displayed about 2 years ago and the money was made available at that time.
 
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