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Why on Earth is David Cameron elected as leader of the party, when he has the leadership qualities of a sheep???

The only thing on his side is the fact the the labour party are so far up the USA's lower orifice that Cameron cant fit. Dont get me wrong, he may be someone you can nip to the pub with, but to run the country? Maybes not.
 
onlyme said:
Why on Earth is David Cameron elected as leader of the party, when he has the leadership qualities of a sheep???

The only thing on his side is the fact the the labour party are so far up the USA's lower orifice that Cameron cant fit. Dont get me wrong, he may be someone you can nip to the pub with, but to run the country? Maybes not.
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So you would like this present resident of Downing Street to carry on would you, The Ditherer in Chief, I didn't think anybody could be worse than Blair, but this guy is a joke, and the thing is if you went to the pub with Gordon you'd be paying:D
 
onlyme said:
Was planning on inviting up him up here, preferably on a friday night, might open his eyes a tad ;)
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At the weekend he's more likely to be found on the estate near Scunthorpe where his wife was brought up.

By the way, that's not a sink estate, but the 300 acre Normanby Hall estate, where the family has resided since 1590.

Very man of the people.
 
Guy Fawkes had a good idea, blow the lot of them up.

I vote conservative, several reasons really, one of which is that we all are being taxed to death by Gordon and his mates. Our lads and lasses out in Iraq, Afganistan and elsewhere are not being given the tools to do the job, no support when they come home, whether or not you agree with the war is not the point our troops dererve our resect and support. Hospitals now in the worse state they have ever been in, I could go on but do I really need to. If we vote Labour back in, I think we will as we are so short sighted, then the country will really go down the pan.
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Next question.:)

Would a Conservative government redress the anomalies where by, in a supposed United Kingdom, Scotland allows it's elderly people free residential care, without the need to sell their homes or use their savings, unlike in England, and gives Scottish students free university tuition fees, again unlike England. In Wales prescriptions are free, which is not the case in England.

We also have the case where Scottish M.P.s vote on legislation that only affects English and Welsh law. Would a Conservative government change this stupid situation brought about by partial devolution?
 
jaysay said:
So you would like this present resident of Downing Street to carry on would you, The Ditherer in Chief, I didn't think anybody could be worse than Blair, but this guy is a joke, and the thing is if you went to the pub with Gordon you'd be paying:D
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Not at all, at the present time we may as well be singing the stars and stripes every morning, just if Mr Cameron is the best the tories have to offer, I suggest they start looking for a man with his vitals still attached.

On the subject of devolution also, would the conservatives stop the funding that is issued to Scotland and Wales for the very voter friendly intiatives that are subsidised by the English tax payers, but cannot be offered to them?
 
Interesting point garinda, no I do not advocate acts of Treason, as I believe that trying to destroy the Houses of Parliment would be classed. I just thought that maybe a bit of light humour was needed.

So you are not a Conservative voter, so on the question of the Scotish rights and for that matter the Welsh get free prescriptions as well, they were introduced by Labour, so can I take it that you voted for them in the last General Election?
 
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Boeing Guy said:
Interesting point garinda, no I do not advocate acts of Treason, as I believe that trying to destroy the Houses of Parliment would be classed. I just thought that maybe a bit of light humour was needed.
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Sorry, didn't know you were a comedian.

I suppose it's the same sort of humour that other comedian Kenny Everett exhibited at the Tory conference in 1983, when he came on the stage and announced 'let's bomb Russia'.

Given the current situation regarding terrorism in the country, personally I don't find that sort of statement funny.
 
Cyfr said:
I've noticed a bunch of anti-conservative sentiment here that I feel is unfounded.

There's the whole issue of Thatcher. Sometimes it feels like the only reason people are not voting Conservative is because of what she did or how she went about it, 30 years ago. Can we please talk about present day issues, surely they are what count.

I've noticed some people who just dislike Tories, with no real explanation. Is this a Thatcher issue or are there more underlying reasons, such as disagreement with policy?

If you have issues with the Conservatives as they stand today, a party who has been forced to change after 11 years of Labour, then air them here, let me respond and tell you how I feel about it.

I'll answer questions as honestly as I can because I want people to discover what the modern Conservatives are actually about.
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I am disilusened with the labour party as it is today,,but i would NEVER , NEVER ,NEVER vote Tory,,,,and yes you can blame that bitch Thatcher for that,,,she caused no end of misery to hard working northerners ,while the southern fatcats got fater and richer,,,,,Well in my humble oppinion it wont be long before she meets her maker ...God help her
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Boeing Guy said:
So you are not a Conservative voter
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I take it you have been privy to my secret voting slips?

I'm a member of no party, and have only ever stated on this forum that I have voted for Labour, though I have voted for other parties too, so you don't know who I have, or haven't voted for in the past.

My questions regarding the anomalies brought about through devoltion don't hide the fact that they were introduced by the present government. My question was what would a Conservative government do to change them.

Even in this thread I've been critical of this government, if you'd care to read a little more carefully, rather than jumping to assumptions for which you have no proof whatsoever.
 
Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first.
The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV.
If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die.

A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me.
When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me.


SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS
SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR.

So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation.

and you say I jump to assumptions
 
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Boeing Guy said:
Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first.
The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV.
If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die.

A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me.
When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me.

SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS
SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR.

So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation.
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Err...ok.

I take it not losing your temper, and not remaining calm under pressure, isn't a pre-requisite to becoming a pilot?
 
I am calm, I will not discuss this further. I believe I made my point.
If you are trying to rattle me, it has not worked.
Your not a troll are you?
 
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Boeing Guy said:
Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first.
The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV.
If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die.

A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me.
When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me.


SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS
SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR.

So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation.

and you say I jump to assumptions
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Oh bugger, I shouldn't have read that - I fly next week :eek:
 
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