Attendances

[K.S.H]

There's one option that wouldn't cost the club anything!
Get Fraser the Eagle down town giving under 12's tickets, they already have these but might need to order a few more, If they just target the kids, likes been said earlier the parents will go with them, It's alright saying its free to under 12's but you have to get them there, the kids probably don't know as they probably don't read the papers, parents probably don't tell them either, give them a ticket and the parents will take them or the kids will play holy hell if they don't

 

[cashman]

There is if you're one of the 118 season ticket holders this year. Season ticket holders were treated poorly last year, so if we ended up out of pocket this year, nobody would be buying one next year.

You can't go reducing prices mid-way through a season. They did it with the under-12s and alienated sections of the fanbase.

thats a good valid point Tin Monkey, blackburn did similar a couple of seasons ago and DID alienate sections of the fan base.mid-season is not the time to play with prices.i go back to the clubs PR if they got any, they NEED to target KIDS, as dave said kids soon become dads in a few years.

 

[lancsdave]

There's one option that wouldn't cost the club anything!
Get Fraser the Eagle down town giving under 12's tickets, they already have these but might need to order a few more, If they just target the kids, likes been said earlier the parents will go with them, It's alright saying its free to under 12's but you have to get them there, the kids probably don't know as they probably don't read the papers, parents probably don't tell them either, give them a ticket and the parents will take them or the kids will play holy hell if they don't

Why not give them out at schools, thats what our lot do including ones in Accrington.

 

[K.S.H]

Why not give them out at schools, thats what our lot do including ones in Accrington.

Yeah, either way, as long as the kids get them I'm sure they'll give their parent hell till they get to use them

 

[maccawozzagod]

Instead of the crossbar challenge why don't they get a penalty competetion for local schools or kids football teams. Generates interest for quite a while and parents who are daft like me will pay to get on the match just to see their little darlings take part.

they will be doing. At the Barrowford show the Football in the Community programme ran a penalty shoot out. The kids who got 8 out of 10 or more were given prizes and their details taken. At some point this season they will be invited back to take part in a proper penalty shoot out.

Why not give them out at schools, thats what our lot do including ones in Accrington.

they will be doing. Again the FITC team are actively working with the schools from here on in. It's something we've never had before, so it has got to be given time. BUt they are now doing these things. Apparently as well, there is some kind of code of conduct between clubs that they will not encroach on each others territory without prior permission., Burnley will now have to scale things down in this area (so too Blackburn) and that should allow us to set our stall out properly.


As nobody knows about these things because it's not on the website, it's no wonder that they are commented on, but the main thing is that work is now being done to encourage the future.

I would go a step further than the under 12's free and make it anybody under 16 with their parents gets in for free. At the JPT game there were a few groups of chavs knocking about here and there who had obviously only come ' for the warmth' as they were blatantly not watching the football, but they may get the bug. At that game under 16's were free.

 

[cashman]

Macca mate thats good to hear. the Kids gotta be the starting point in my opinion.

 

[maccawozzagod]

no worries Cashman, I believe in communication

 

[Oggy]

I believe, that children are the future
Teach them well, and let them lead the way






(Sorry, bit of an "Early Doors" addict)

 

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Not sure anyone goes to an under 21 group.

Stanley already have the best free entry option ( under 12 ) . I think the nearest one to that is under 7's free at Preston. At Burnley there is no free admission group and I'm sure somebody could enlighten us with what the others do.

I think concessions for most clubs stop at 16 with possibly a student rate for those above 16 but still at college/university.

Perhaps they could try all under 16's free as long as it's bought with an adult ticket ?

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[AccyMad]

If the club started meddling about with prices now in the scale that some are suggesting, eg: admitting under 16's free I for one would not be happy unless I was going to get my money back that I've already paid for my 13 years olds season ticket - these things have to be done before the start of the season. I was caught out last season when, after I'd paid for his ticket, all under 12's were then let in for free - I didn't moan about that one because as previous season ticket holders we had got them at conference prices & so I'd only paid 40 quid for it and by the time the change came in I reckoned he'd had his moneys worth.
The same goes if they decided they could reduce the adult admission price - what about the people who have already paid up-front.
How exactly would either of these changes help the club when they'd be upsetting a large section of their fanbase?

 

[Thin Monkey]

People say they would go to watch Stanley if the prices were reduced, but would they? Last season against Torquay -Free admission -Official attendance 4005. I know there were the usual Stanley cock-ups which meant some people (including some season ticket holders) couldn't get in. I know some people were highly sceptical about the reported gate, but similar things happen most weeks.

That's a 100% reduction in ticket prices generating a 77% increase on last years average gate of 2260 (ANDYS STATS.CO.UK - Attendance stats). I suspect that, of those 77%, the vast majority wouldn't have gone had it been a tenner (a 30% reduction). Without wishing to flaunt my economics 'A' level, that points to an inelastic demand. Put simply, the extra punters generated don't make up for the loss in revenue from the existing ones. It's the mirror image of the reason governments can screw smokers and drinkers every budget, not enough give up, or reduce their intake, to cancel out the tax hike.

Eric has a little bit of scope around the margins, to let in groups who wouldn't normally be seen dead at Stanley games, in the hope they'll catch the bug or, at least, spend a few bob in the bar, but he has no chance of increasing total gate receipts by offering "across the board" reductions. Apart from everything else it would cause a riot among those of us who have forked out for season tickets if he to cut match day prices in mid season.

In the short term Coley has to produce in a winning team, playing good football and Eric will see a modest increase in attendances.

In the long term the club has to concentrate on getting the kids into the habit of going. Swamp the schools with free tickets, get the players involved coaching in local schools, stop having meetings about meetings about involving the community in the club and actually do something for a change!

That way, in ten or twenty years time we might, just might, have a generation of adults paying to watch Accrington Stanley rather than going to watch Rovers, Burnley, Man Utd, etc., etc.

 

[maccawozzagod]

in a nutshell

 

[Revived Red]

In the short term Coley has to produce in a winning team, playing good football and Eric will see a modest increase in attendances.

In the long term the club has to concentrate on getting the kids into the habit of going. Swamp the schools with free tickets, get the players involved coaching in local schools, stop having meetings about meetings about involving the community in the club and actually do something for a change!

That way, in ten or twenty years time we might, just might, have a generation of adults paying to watch Accrington Stanley rather than going to watch Rovers, Burnley, Man Utd, etc., etc.

Agree 100%

 

[Claire Cal]

very few people in Accrington know the kids get in for nowt - we hardly ever seem sure of the current situation!

as for price driopping it doesn't matter, Eric has said we can't afford to drop it. Personally I'd like the next cup game to be made a big effort of and charge only a fiver

I dont understand how they cant afford it. Sureley they would rather have a ground full of people who have paid say a fiver or tenner rather than an empty one!!! I am a Burnley fan but it seems everytime Burnley dont have a game on a Saturday they put the price up on the tickets at the Stanley doesnt make any sense to me!

 

[Stanleymad]

I dont understand how they cant afford it. Sureley they would rather have a ground full of people who have paid say a fiver or tenner rather than an empty one!!! I am a Burnley fan but it seems everytime Burnley dont have a game on a Saturday they put the price up on the tickets at the Stanley doesnt make any sense to me!

They haven't put the league prices up at stanley certainly on the adult gate price since our entry to league 2

 

[AccyMad]

And neither do we change the admission price according to which 'category' of team we're playing as some other teams do, so no idea where you're coming from????

 

[Tin Monkey]

Sounds like a statement from some who doesn't quite know what they are talking about.


In all honesty, you aren't going to boost gates in the short term. I live in Darwen and if Darwen FC were to go on a promotion run over the next few years and rise to the Conference or Football League, I still wouldn't go and watch them. I'm a Stanley fan and will always watch the team I support. I wouldn't even be tempted to support Darwen as a second team, as I have little interest in them.

The same can be said for all those football fans who turned to Burnley, Blackburn, Manchester Utd, etc when Stanley had no team, or a team playing at a very amateur level. They aren't suddenly going to say, "I see Stanley are back in the League and as I live in Accrington I'm going to switch my support. It isn't going to happen. There are also a couple of generations of children who have grown up in households where Stanley isn't the family team, so we've missed all those too.

If Stanley are going to boost their crowds it has to be a long-term project. Statrt off with the kids and maybe we'll see bigger gates in the future. Of course, it all depends on how long we have got for it to happen, and if the club has enough initiative to make it happen.

 

[cashman]

Sounds like a statement from some who doesn't quite know what they are talking about.


In all honesty, you aren't going to boost gates in the short term. I live in Darwen and if Darwen FC were to go on a promotion run over the next few years and rise to the Conference or Football League, I still wouldn't go and watch them. I'm a Stanley fan and will always watch the team I support. I wouldn't even be tempted to support Darwen as a second team, as I have little interest in them.

The same can be said for all those football fans who turned to Burnley, Blackburn, Manchester Utd, etc when Stanley had no team, or a team playing at a very amateur level. They aren't suddenly going to say, "I see Stanley are back in the League and as I live in Accrington I'm going to switch my support. It isn't going to happen. There are also a couple of generations of children who have grown up in households where Stanley isn't the family team, so we've missed all those too.

If Stanley are going to boost their crowds it has to be a long-term project. Statrt off with the kids and maybe we'll see bigger gates in the future. Of course, it all depends on how long we have got for it to happen, and if the club has enough initiative to make it happen.

well said TM, its what ive been saying, as one of those you mention, it can happen,it must happen, but only the "club" can MAKE it happen. i would be the happiest bloke in the world if they got off the "pot" and acheived it.

 

[Doug]

Sounds like a statement from some who doesn't quite know what they are talking about.


In all honesty, you aren't going to boost gates in the short term. I live in Darwen and if Darwen FC were to go on a promotion run over the next few years and rise to the Conference or Football League, I still wouldn't go and watch them. I'm a Stanley fan and will always watch the team I support. I wouldn't even be tempted to support Darwen as a second team, as I have little interest in them.

The same can be said for all those football fans who turned to Burnley, Blackburn, Manchester Utd, etc when Stanley had no team, or a team playing at a very amateur level. They aren't suddenly going to say, "I see Stanley are back in the League and as I live in Accrington I'm going to switch my support. It isn't going to happen. There are also a couple of generations of children who have grown up in households where Stanley isn't the family team, so we've missed all those too.

If Stanley are going to boost their crowds it has to be a long-term project. Statrt off with the kids and maybe we'll see bigger gates in the future. Of course, it all depends on how long we have got for it to happen, and if the club has enough initiative to make it happen.

There are few things in this life that are as lasting as the choice and commitment given to your first club. Stanley for us is one of them. Unfortunately as you have pointed out before those that made their choice 40 odd years are unlikely to change either, we need to new blood and life of Accrington and District to fill the voids, irrespective of their colour, creed, religion. If we can get them and keep them then their colour will be Red, there creed will be Accrington and their religion will be Stanley.


OK, which way was the door……………….

 

[Bazf]

If Stanley are going to boost their crowds it has to be a long-term project. Statrt off with the kids and maybe we'll see bigger gates in the future. Of course, it all depends on how long we have got for it to happen, and if the club has enough initiative to make it happen.

This is going to be the life blood of the club and they need to be encouraged any way possible. It may mean spending a few bob and giving away t shirts or getting players involved with individual schools but we must speculate to accumulate.