Bad Reporting???

polly said:
...with English as an additional language (interesting that they use the word additional not second)...
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Spoken like a true Brit ;)
Why would it have to be their second language? If they knew two others- how do you decide what order they go in?

Most people in Amsterdam speak Dutch, German, French and English. Which one would be their second language?
 
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polly said:
I got a different impression. I wonder how many of the staff are young and with minimum qualifications.
I also wonder how children with English as an additional language (interesting that they use the word additional not second) are supported. There are a number of implications here but I do not think we should pursue them without further knowledge
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It doesnt work like that... by law there HAS to be a certain amount of each qualification level ( i cant think of the ratio off the top of my head) so there must be there right amount of level 3's for the nursery to be open. It doesnt sound like they take on students as the tutors have to visit the nursery so they would have been reported earlier for this..
 
Polly is quite right the staff are young well the ones i came into contact whom were working there were, tho would probably be on day release at college or recently qualified i presume & would be CRB checked by law.
 
Stanleymad said:
Polly is quite right the staff are young well the ones i came into contact whom were working there were, tho would probably be on day release at college or recently qualified i presume & would be CRB checked by law.
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Staff have to be fully qualified.. students are crb checked.
 
emamum23 said:
Staff have to be fully qualified.. students are crb checked.
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Not always, as long as u have experience of working with young children is also considered with a crb which maybe within the criteria dependant on how direct u are working within the environment.
 
the unqualified ones work with the qualified ones....... you still have to have the right amount of qualified ones.
 
In the late 60s my son went to an LCC nursery.
Then they were for use by working mums, and not the haven for abused/neglected children, which they later became.
I do not know whether they still operate.
The 'qualification' for working in them was a 2 year full time training college course in Nursery Nursing.
It appears that standards have slipped a lot since then.
 
MargaretR said:
In the late 60s my son went to an LCC nursery.
Then they were for use by working mums, and not the haven for abused/neglected children, which they later became.
I do not know whether they still operate.
The 'qualification' for working in them was a 2 year full time training college course in Nursery Nursing.
It appears that standards have slipped a lot since then.
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I also think that part of the problem is a lack of proper education. Once of a day as you point out nursery nurses had to do two years full time training. Seems to me that standards are slipping.
 
2 years full time or on the job training and college one night a week.... the one night a week option is only for mature students that can prove they have some experience already....the length of time you go one night a week depends on your experience and any qualifications you already have..... can be 1-3 years. Until you are fully qulified you are classed as a student so cant be left alone with the children.
 
emamum23 said:
2 years full time or on the job training and college one night a week.... the one night a week option is only for mature students that can prove they have some experience already....the length of time you go one night a week depends on your experience and any qualifications you already have..... can be 1-3 years. Until you are fully qulified you are classed as a student so cant be left alone with the children.
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The difference between now and then -
until you had qualified you weren't allowed through the door!
 
It appears that something isn't being done right at this nursery when even basic hygiene standards are not being followed. Doesn't seem like the training is working. Then again you shouldn't have to be trained to wash your hands after using the toilet. Seems common sense isn't being used either:o
 
emamum23 said:
2 years full time or on the job training and college one night a week.... the one night a week option is only for mature students that can prove they have some experience already....the length of time you go one night a week depends on your experience and any qualifications you already have..... can be 1-3 years. Until you are fully qulified you are classed as a student so cant be left alone with the children.
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Again therectical but not always the case, it depends on where u work, job type & who u work for as to their policies regarding their H&S guidelines etc having worked in the industry.
 
ah... now you wont get a job without experience so all students do work experience..... you cant know how to look after children from reading a book and doing assignments, children dont work like that, you need to be around them.

who would you trust? An 18 year old thats just finished college and already has 800 hours work experience, has learnt on the job and has 1st hand experience of caring for children, feeding them, changing nappies etc or an 18 year old thats just come out of college with no experience and has only bottle fed and changed the nappy of a doll and has learnt everything from books?
 
True em, & thats why i said yr earlier post was therectical no critism meant, u do need the both hand in hand & be the best employable:D
 
Its illegal for them not to have the right staff! no matter about anything else, if its a nursery then they have to...
 
I don't agree with 'learning on the job'
It equates to 'learn from mistakes'
The thorough 2 years full time was instruction in child health, psychology, nutrition and safety.
I am glad that my child was not exposed to the 'learning mistakes' of others.
 
so how about nurses? should they learn from books as well? and then at the end of the training the inexperienced nurses are inflicted on the patients... can you learn to give an injection from a book?
 
The difference between nursing adults and nursing children is that the adults know when basic hygiene standards and safety practices are being flouted, and can object, children accept bad practices as the norm.
Nurses in hospitals have to do general nursing before working in pediatrics, so have (hopefully) already been instilled with these basics.
 
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