Really thought provoking & a valuable contribution to the subject, man aren't you a class act ?
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Really thought provoking & a valuable contribution to the subject, man aren't you a class act ?
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I'm a big lad, Ultras be warned, following my gentle words I'll will be kicking the sh*t out of you all.
If you know who they are can't you get a couple of "Big Lads" to have a gentle word with them & point out to them the errors of their ways ? And that unless change happens consequences other than a talking to will follow, used to work quite well for us.
I'm a big lad, Ultras be warned, following my gentle words I'll will be kicking the sh*t out of you all.
Oh dear & an aggressive one too it seems.
Dave, what are your personal thoughts about what you saw at Barrow on Saturday?
Relating to what you saw at Barrow, what are your personal thoughts on what you see at all the home fixtures and away fixtures?
Relating to what you saw at Barrow, what are your personal thoughts on what you see at all the home fixtures and away fixtures?
Not exactly a considered and adult reply.
Granted, Dave in Germanys reply was rather old school, but it was ended with a smiley, therefore written tounge in cheek I should imagine.
I am, by virtue of your reply, assuming that you don't feel the same as the majority of posters on this thread, in so much that anti social behaviour on the terrace is neither warranted nor wanted?
Pity really, as our fans have a superb reputation built up over a long period of time......it will take these idiots nowhere near as long to ruin what Jase and the original Ultras worked so hard to achieve. But hey, there only having a bit of a laugh so what's the harm?
Time for a few numpties to grow up or ship out imho.
Can't help you there I'm afraid, I can only get to matches when I get across, but when I do attend I see a lot of enthusiastic supporters singing & shouting & thoroughly enjoying themselves with no animosity.
That said though, at the Wycombe game last season I saw some young idiots, winding up away supports as they were leaving the ground thereby turning an incident free event into a chance for further escalation & probably dragging the good reputation of the Stanley fans through all kinds of ikky stuff, simply because of a few imbeciles.
Once a club gains a reputation for trouble it is near on impossible to change that perception from other football fans home & abroad. I'll give you an example Liverpool vs Juventus Heysel 85, things happened English Clubs got banned, travelling round Europe taking in some games as soon as you mentioned being English (and from Liverpool) dark looks & a total change in attitudes. That is why any inkling of trouble needs stamping down hard irrespective of whose responsible or their popularity.
Old school ? I'm practically Victorian in my outlooks.
(still, as with most things there's a grain of truth as the core)
Questions asked:
What are your personal thoughts about what you saw at Barrow on Saturday?
Relating to what you saw at Barrow, what are your personal thoughts on what you see at all the home fixtures and away fixtures?
Answers given:
None, and can't help you there I'm afraid
It's quite clear you wasn't there are on Saturday and very rarely attend home or away.
How can you be in a position to comment?...... You can't.
Obviously you live in Germany so my questions were aimed to trip you up.
A minor incident occurred that was dealt with by the stewards and the Police......... End of discussion. A smoke bomb being released at barrow is hardly compareable to what happened at Heysel in 1985.
Let me assure you Dave, this represents a high percentage of all Stanley matches.........My personal thoughts on the number of stanley matches I attend each year including pre season friendlies.......A high percentage.
I was there at Barrow and the smoke bomb ended up blowing in my direction as I was stood close to the people who set it off. I want to watch football games without people causing me and fellow supporters grief, actions like this will only make things worse for all supporters in terms of reputation and treatment by relevant authorities on future away games. Similar incidents to this have happened in the past, most notably at Stevenage in the play-offs and at Cheltenham in May 2010.
Why do we have to have this minority ruining it for the vast majority of supporters who dont cause hassle? I would imagine the lad that was escorted off the game will end up with a ban, after all the problems with the Newcastle game I would have hoped that this group of supporters would have thought a bit more about their actions especially with what happened to Jason. However, this doesn't seem to have made a blind bit of difference as actions have shown. It's high time these people grew up and stopped acting like a bunch of idiots.
Why do we have to have this minority ruining it for the vast majority of supporters who dont cause hassle? I would imagine the lad that was escorted off the game will end up with a ban, after all the problems with the Newcastle game I would have hoped that this group of supporters would have thought a bit more about their actions especially with what happened to Jason. However, this doesn't seem to have made a blind bit of difference as actions have shown. It's high time these people grew up and stopped acting like a bunch of idiots.
The same ones who started the problems at Cheltenham??
question is, who did them at stevenage? someone ended up burning a hole in the back of my brand new stanley shirt!
also, it wasnt nice not being able to breath underneath the flag whilst about 4 smoke bombs went off around me. one of my friends ended up in the back of the ambulance!
Just to let you know the group was in full support of doing the red smoke at Barrow! Were not hooligans but an ultra group who are there to support our team in noise and also in colour ! At Barrow our display was flags and the red smoke ! No one was injured, hurt or even effected by the smoke as it was an open terrace with hardly anyone in it !
I suggest you all make your own groups , travel around the country and support your team before all the bad comments ! The Stanley would be dead without us lot as I can't see many of you creating a group and doing anything ! Also the guy who got a caution followed his team last season to every home and away game ! I'm sure you all do that !? But now he's a thug for letting off a bit of smoke in an opened terrace ! I hope you all slag off the 100 or so people passing on cancer who were smoking in the ground and also the stewards who were also !
The conclusion is we will keep doing what we doing with supporting our team in the different ways and if you don't like it then that's your problem and not the groups !
Were not thugs or criminals , just Stanley Ultras.
I suggest you all make your own groups , travel around the country and support your team before all the bad comments ! The Stanley would be dead without us lot as I can't see many of you creating a group and doing anything ! Also the guy who got a caution followed his team last season to every home and away game ! I'm sure you all do that !? But now he's a thug for letting off a bit of smoke in an opened terrace ! I hope you all slag off the 100 or so people passing on cancer who were smoking in the ground and also the stewards who were also !
The conclusion is we will keep doing what we doing with supporting our team in the different ways and if you don't like it then that's your problem and not the groups !
Were not thugs or criminals , just Stanley Ultras.
It is a criminal offence to take an offensive weapon into a football ground. Smoke bombs are classed as offessive weapons. So what does that make you?
You carry on as you are doing. We are getting a bad name now and it will only get worse. You may think it is clever to break the law in the name of Accrington Stanley but I don't.
If you break the law you are a criminal, so stop giviing us all that rubbish about being "fans not criminals"
It's also a criminal offense to smoke in a football ground and also in a public place ! So are the 50 odd other Stanley fans criminals then jeff?!
We've never had a bad name and most compliments we get are about the ultras !
We've never had a bad name and most compliments we get are about the ultras !
ok yeh will carry on doing what yer doing setting smoke bombs off? if so please explain the implications to the club yeh profess to love if yeh do so? this is one explanation i'm dying to hear.
You make it sound as if we do it every game , we don't , just the odd occasions ! The crap little ones that have been done on a tuesday/friday night are from the little Blackburn ****s that you can't do anything about !
It was a friendly yesterday , hardly no -one in a terrace ! Not forgetting the terrace is open so all the smoke went straight into the air ! It's not the worst crime ever commuted is it ! However the people that were smoking inside thr ground and even the stewards are not criminals are they not ?
I'm sure your all nice , prefect Christians in here! So I can understand your anger if you've never sinned against the law ! I hope you don't go over the speed limit today on the road as you will be criminals like us !
It was a friendly yesterday , hardly no -one in a terrace ! Not forgetting the terrace is open so all the smoke went straight into the air ! It's not the worst crime ever commuted is it ! However the people that were smoking inside thr ground and even the stewards are not criminals are they not ?
I'm sure your all nice , prefect Christians in here! So I can understand your anger if you've never sinned against the law ! I hope you don't go over the speed limit today on the road as you will be criminals like us !
Smoking at Barrow is only banned in the stands. Everyone that wants to smoke in the away end is allowed to. This was pointed out by the chap on the tannoy.
You Ultras do a great job, but NOT when clearly breaking the law. Simples!