Beggers

Remedi said:
I hazard a guess that this symbol means that you dont understand. I think you probably need to read a better paper and consider the levels of assault, arson attack etc committed against the immigarnt populations in these countries (and yes this does happen in Britain as well). Also consider the wider support the far right has in these countries.
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Mmmm i think you need to come down a peg or 2 & remove the rosey glasses to get real, maybe read the thread as it was about begging:end:
 
Remedi said:
Lets let them die in their own country then and stop bothering us. Why on earth wouldn't you want the best possible life for yourself and for your family if fleeing some of the horrors that they have faced.
Are there illegal immigrants?- Yes of course there are but there is an inherent risk with branding the entire immigrant population in this manner.

There seems to a suggestion that I should not respond to some of the previous posts by saying they are racist but there are racist attitudes on display. If you dont want to be called a racist dont make racist comments.
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Its YOU thats brought racism into this thread no one else.No one has passed a racist comment.Like Accymel said this thread is about beggers LOOK at the title and keep on topic or is that beyond YOU?????????
 
mthead said:
Its YOU thats brought racism into this thread no one else.No one has passed a racist comment.Like Accymel said this thread is about beggers LOOK at the title and keep on topic or is that beyond YOU?????????
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Pardon the pun but I beg to differ. Do you really not see the racism in the following terms-

'Thought these people took care of their own'

'You should have given her a pork scratching'

'These people are Romanian gypsies. There was a plague of em down here until about 5 years ago'


As to the thread going 'off message' I thought that was a nautural evolution of the discussion- apologies if that is not acceptable but I thought that was kind of the whole point of a forum.
 
accymel said:
Mmmm i think you need to come down a peg or 2 & remove the rosey glasses to get real, maybe read the thread as it was about begging:end:
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'Remove the rosey glasses' ????????????
Oh you mean the ones that enable you to see beyond the end of your nose and have awareness of issues beyond the mundane.
 
Remedi said:
'Remove the rosey glasses' ????????????
Oh you mean the ones that enable you to see beyond the end of your nose and have awareness of issues beyond the mundane.
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You proved my point - thank you your bullying controlling language dont wash with me!
 
No racism in tented by the remark I thought these people looked after there own.
Perhaps I should have written I thought Muslims took care of their own.
 
Remedi said:
As to the thread going 'off message' I thought that was a nautural evolution of the discussion- apologies if that is not acceptable but I thought that was kind of the whole point of a forum.
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Just looked your a newbie.On Accyweb they try and keep thing 'ON TOPIC'
dont know what forums you go on but the others I go on are exactly the same to.As I am reading both threads you are participating in one word comes to mind 'TROLL'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!If you can actually understand the terminology
 
ANNE said:
No racism in tented by the remark I thought these people looked after there own.
Perhaps I should have written I thought Muslims took care of their own.
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That is exactly what the beggar was banking on isn't it? She was hoping that you would be a Muslim opening the door and that you would see her as a fellow Muslim and help her.

Would it have been racist if your beggar had claimed to be a Mormon and you'd said "I thought they looked after their own." Same difference. Islam is a religion, not a race.
 
Remedi said:
Of course and that is so easy and accessible for someone with a child to do- easy to not worry that your child will be taken into care for example and of course you would get so much help as a result. Getting back to reality this is simply not a viable option for many people.
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Then I suggest that a child might be better protected by being taken into care by Social Services, than used as an accessory by a door to door beggar.
 
Remedi said:
To suggest that Germany or France for that matter are safe countries for immigrants is naieve in the extreme.
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I suggest it is you who are naive.

Have you been to France or Germany?

In both countries there are immigrants living quite safely and happily, from countries linked to both Germany and France's colonial past.
 
garinda said:
Then I suggest that a child might be better protected by being taken into care by Social Services, than used as an accessory by a door to door beggar.
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Garinda, I agree wholeheartedly.
I understand that children are 'borrowed' from other beggars to be used in what might be described as emotional blackmail. I consider this to be abuse.

I don't give hard cash to anyone who begs although I have no problem buying them some food, but occasionally this is a mistake. A friend of mine gave a couple of Greggs pasties to a beggar sat outside Woolies on Broadway and was thanked by having them thrown back at her accompanied by a barrage of abuse. Obviously not as hungry as he made out!!
JB
 
Personally, I do not part with cash to anyone at my front door unless I owe it to them. Therefore, I will happily pay my window cleaner at the front door but nobody else. This is not racist but sensible, it does not mean that I am not charitable but I will not be scammed by anyone and people asking for money in any way shape or form starts to ring alarm bells in my head. I will not give bank details at the door or over the phone but I have donated to several charities so far this year. These donations have been through sponsorship, ie walks, London Marathon etc...

I do not see the refusal to give money to a beggar as racist, it is personal choice (something that we are all entitled to). We have all seen instances where throwing money at problems does not solve them, even TB has admittd this recently. I would direct door to door beggars to Maundy Grange.
 
it was sooooooo funny today.

those romanian beggers were at it again today - this time outside the mosque at friday prayers - stood outside doin the whole allah will bless u thing. two women and a kid of around 6-7. everyone just blanked them and walked on. i thought more would've fallen for it but thankfully they didnt.

after they were over they were up and down blackburn rd doin the whole knockin on doors routine... in light of the elections i think we should bring this up to our newly elected council chambers...

oh and then i saw a real clash of cultures. working in manc *they're there too* a woman approached a girl who was clearly upset having lost her bag for some beggin money and the girl just snapped. does it effing look like i have a penny to give u!? as she swung her arm knocking the cup outta her hand. small pleasures make you smile.
 
they shouldnt come into this country bloody begging, probably not even supposed to be here!!
is it just me or do the romanian men give you the creeps, everytime i see one i get shivers, they look evil!!
 
They have been at it again. different woman same writing on note. When she opened her gob she had loads of gold teeth. If I hadn't been so tired after working a fourteen hour shift I would have told her to sell her teeth instead of pestering me.
 
ANNE said:
They have been at it again. different woman same writing on note. When she opened her gob she had loads of gold teeth. If I hadn't been so tired after working a fourteen hour shift I would have told her to sell her teeth instead of pestering me.
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Bare faced cheek that. Never mind the dentist I would have done it there and then.
 
where are all these beggers at? which part of accy?

so im prepared for the clampits:xena_bana
 
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