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sponsored walk has been arranged to raise funds for the planned Dale in the Community Trust
sponsored walk has been arranged to raise funds for the planned Dale in the Community Trust Just give them a bin liner for the time being
In answer to your rather cynical comments following my suggestion of roofing the Coppice terrace, I would respond;
1. The upgrade of player/officials facilities are already included in the plans posted by Mr Holt & for which he asked for comments.
2. Upgrade facilities for the extra 1000 home fans in a bid to keep them? - Don't make me laugh!
These Johnny-come-lately's have never had it so good, as they quaff their subsidised pints in a nice warm bar before taking their places under a dry covered stand or terrace.
We already have a new fanzone, new stand & new toilets for home fans. What further upgrade do you suggest - perhaps paying them to attend?
3. For upgrade of of bar - see point 1. Again, already included in Mr Holt's grand plan.
4. Spending money we don't have to keep away fans dry on that one day a year it really monsoons? - Seriously, how long have you lived in Accy?
We've already had 3 or 4 capacity gates this season with opponents bringing 2/2500 paying fans to the Wham.
They pay for tickets, beer & food to swell our coffers & you think it's OK to let them get soaked to the skin or half frozen to death on an exposed terrace.
I'd like to know how many of the extra 1000 home fans you refer to would bother turning up every week if they had to endure being drenched for 90 minutes.
I would have thought a simple metal frame with a tin roof would be peanuts compared to some of the proposals shown on the new clubhouse development.
5. Your final comment doesn't even merit an answer.
1 are these Mr Holts plans that he explicitly said hadnt been costed yet, nor put in front of planners yet? Yes it is a plan, yes he qants to fo it, but 2 years ago as far as April he said that the main stand concourse was being done, portakabins smashed down etc. In his words "plans are fluid "
2. You're right, the more recent additions have never had it so good. But I remember the influx of fans that we failed to retain on Promotion to the Unibond Premier, AND Conference, AND League 2. My money would go on home fans every time
3. See point 1
4. Well over 40 years. Yes it rains but it rarely buckets down anywhere near the Sunderland levels. I'm not sure how much of Jonny you are, and how lately you arrived, but Ive stoodon the Clayton End and The Coppice End through many a winter. I never drowned, nor did I freeze to death
5. Touchè
Will away fans turn up every week if we keep them dry?
You're missing the point Mr Lip. Andy has an idea of what he wants the ground to be, and how he wants it to function. If we had sold Kayden Jackson for £10m then I have no doubt that all the work would be done in May.
He wants to build the ground in line with affordability and requirement. Derby, Sunderland and Barnsley would have sold 2600 tickets if we'd have played on top of The Coppice. Gillingham would have brought a minibus full even if we had Darlingtons Board Room of an away end . Yes the facilities cost us some custom, but do the Maths and you'd have to be Dolly Dimple to prioritise it. A metal frame with tin roof, as you put it, is neither safe nor ideal. It may be 'peanuts', but it would be coming back down asap so would be a waste of peanuts that we dont have.
Average ticket price works out a little over a tenner, and i bet they font spend a tenner (average) on sundries. But we'll say £20 per customer, and lets say a very conservative 500k to develop the away end ... how long will it take for us to recoup that? 25k EXTRA customers are required.
It'll be done, but there's other priorities first
those teams who did have a large away following are probably boosted by some who do not usually travel away but want to see their side at a new ground they have not seen them at. if we cover the ground i doubt we will see as many turn up anyway next season. remember portsmouth,s large away following seemed to get less and less as the years went bye. some just ticked stanley off as they,d been and doubt it was our facilities that put em off as they had no intention of returning anyway.
The lack of cover is definitely a factor as you see big following coming back if they visit when it is sunny like Luton in August, but more of a drop off for winter visits.
Of course some fans come for a one off visit, but the facilities will impact on numbers, and this season the Northern Rail strike too.
Stanley's business model relies on maximizing income from away fans, yet they are treated badly in many ways. E.g. Sunderland fans got to pay full price to come back after being soaked through the first time.
Of course some fans come for a one off visit, but the facilities will impact on numbers, and this season the Northern Rail strike too.
Stanley's business model relies on maximizing income from away fans, yet they are treated badly in many ways. E.g. Sunderland fans got to pay full price to come back after being soaked through the first time.
Absolutely spot on Monkey. You could give them armchairs, carpet a d a conservatory and youd still not sell out
So what would you suggest? 70 mins is best part of a match. i dont regard full price as badly treated.
So what would you suggest? 70 mins is best part of a match. i dont regard full price as badly treated.
Half price like against Morecambe with a 2nd half postponement.
i imagine there will be some rules and guidelines that the club has to follow when charging for abandoned games. if stanley did owt wrong the EFL would be on our backs within seconds.
That might still happen, in the article on our fishy site about the rearranged date it says ticketing information will be announced in due course & Sunderland fans were advised to keep their stubs so it could be that anyone who came to the original fixture could get some kind of discount
Oh mighty Spartacus2nd, your gladius has cut me to the core.
This is the Forum my friend, not the Colosseum.
You may be a long time Stanley fan, but you've only been on here for 5 minutes.
There are 2 types of contributors on this forum. Those who post original thought & those who simply 'react' to the former.
Some do it with logic & wit & some, like you, do it with sarcasm.
By all means disagree with anything I post. But if your going to respond with comments aimed at ridicule, eg. 'Perhaps you could sell off a portion of your estate to help Mr Holt with the financials? then prepare for a verbal kick up the gluteus maximus.
Don't know how you calculate an average ticket price of 'just over £10'. Last time I looked it cost £20 (adult) & £15 (concession) for away fans
If I was an away fan forking out £20 for a ticket, I wouldn't expect armchairs, carpet and a conservatory. But I would at least expect shelter from the elements.
We're no longer in the Unibond or Conference, we're actually in League 1, where the majority of stadia are all seater & fully covered.
As for your gem - 'A metal frame with tin roof, as you put it, is neither safe nor ideal'. I was speaking metaphorically. Did you imagine I meant build it from meccano?
The Clayton end is nothing more than a tin roof on a metal frame. Don't see that as unsafe.
Finally, your question as to my Johnny-come-lately status. Well, let me think? Ah yes, now I remember. Attended my first game at Peel Park in 1958.
Sorry, can't recall the score or even who we played. But then, I was only 8 at the time
Touche indeed!
This is the Forum my friend, not the Colosseum.
You may be a long time Stanley fan, but you've only been on here for 5 minutes.
There are 2 types of contributors on this forum. Those who post original thought & those who simply 'react' to the former.
Some do it with logic & wit & some, like you, do it with sarcasm.
By all means disagree with anything I post. But if your going to respond with comments aimed at ridicule, eg. 'Perhaps you could sell off a portion of your estate to help Mr Holt with the financials? then prepare for a verbal kick up the gluteus maximus.
Don't know how you calculate an average ticket price of 'just over £10'. Last time I looked it cost £20 (adult) & £15 (concession) for away fans
If I was an away fan forking out £20 for a ticket, I wouldn't expect armchairs, carpet and a conservatory. But I would at least expect shelter from the elements.
We're no longer in the Unibond or Conference, we're actually in League 1, where the majority of stadia are all seater & fully covered.
As for your gem - 'A metal frame with tin roof, as you put it, is neither safe nor ideal'. I was speaking metaphorically. Did you imagine I meant build it from meccano?
The Clayton end is nothing more than a tin roof on a metal frame. Don't see that as unsafe.
Finally, your question as to my Johnny-come-lately status. Well, let me think? Ah yes, now I remember. Attended my first game at Peel Park in 1958.
Sorry, can't recall the score or even who we played. But then, I was only 8 at the time
Touche indeed!
You forgot the third type, the one where one must serve one's apprenticeship before daring to insult a member of the Illuminati
Ive followed this forum for well over a decade. Im well aware of the decorum or etiquette. Im also well aware of who posts quality, or pish, or constructive criticism, or who just posts because they like to see their pseudonym up in lights. Sadly, the vast majority of quality posters have dwindled away in response to the piffle paffle often posted.
But dont worry about me petal, I'll get my post count up to a level where my opinion is valid
The average value of a ticket that I gave, just over a tenner, is what AH has ventured himself and is the price they use to base their projections on.
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Why don't they use the money they make out of ripping off away supporters in the bar.