Bits & Bobs

[Twenty Eight]

Main concern to me is all this investment is in the site ....... but what about on the pitch ?
All well and good having a nice ground ...........
Getting a bit tired of "Coley will unearth a diamond as usual"
Where is the scouting infrastructure ?
I'm hoping John gets support and a healthy budget at the end of the season and we can get away from this consistent high percentage of loan deals.

 

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

Main concern to me is all this investment is in the site ....... but what about on the pitch ?
All well and good having a nice ground ...........
Getting a bit tired of "Coley will unearth a diamond as usual"
Where is the scouting infrastructure ?
I'm hoping John gets support and a healthy budget at the end of the season and we can get away from this consistent high percentage of loan deals.

Do we actually have a scouting system 28?
As we don't have the funds to snap up potential talent - even non-league teams expect a £1m for their players these days; we will always be reliant on the rejects, free agents & loans.
Even when we produce our own talent via the academy, the gems are poached by the big-boys before they've kicked a ball for the senior team.
Fully agree with your sentiments. We may survive this season but without better quality players, I doubt we'll get away with it next year.

 

[andyd]

Main concern to me is all this investment is in the site ....... but what about on the pitch ?
All well and good having a nice ground ...........
Getting a bit tired of "Coley will unearth a diamond as usual"
Where is the scouting infrastructure ?
I'm hoping John gets support and a healthy budget at the end of the season and we can get away from this consistent high percentage of loan deals.

We can't have extra investment on the pitch without extra income the cup runs this season have been added to the playing budget I believe player sales on ground improvement one day the work will be finished and hopefully better facilities, clubhouse and office,s plus new training ground to benefit on the field performances will ultimately lead to 7 day week all year round income streams that will create bigger budgets, hopefully Coleman and players can keep in this level and go on to greater things.

 

[Twenty Eight]

You're missing the point. We've built a stand, will be building new changing rooms soon etc etc so the answer has to be yes the money is there ...... just the choice of where to invest.
You don't get promotions and you don't have cup runs without a team.
Chicken or the egg.
We've been found out this season.
There has to be a semblance of balance.

 

[andyd]

You're missing the point. We've built a stand, will be building new changing rooms soon etc etc so the answer has to be yes the money is there ...... just the choice of where to invest.
You don't get promotions and you don't have cup runs without a team.
Chicken or the egg.
We've been found out this season.
There has to be a semblance of balance.

No I ain't I have been going Stanley for a long while and quite frankly the ground had become embarrassing countless postponed matches as the pitch was frankly knackered you could have put the money into the playing budget and couldn't create a decent surface for them we were bankrupt till Mr Holt came along and in the 3 and a bit years since we have progressed if that isn't up to your liking or right priority's tough.

 

[Mr T]

Few quick points;

Pitch is "knackered" due to too many home Cup games and lack of TG; plus usual crap Accy weather

Capacity is nothing to do with HBC;

Our Safety Certificate is granted by LCC and SGSA who are totally "onside" with what we are doing

Coley, Jimmy and John Doolan are our "scouts"; they never stop!!

 

[Spartacus2nd]

Capacity is nothing to do with HBC;

Our Safety Certificate is granted by LCC and SGSA who are totally "onside" with what we are doing

Im well aware who determines the capacity, but Andy said at a fans forum that the council would not allow any meaningful ground expansion, as the local roads and lack of parking wont allow it. If you know different I suggest you pass it on to AH

Main concern to me is all this investment is in the site ....... but what about on the pitch ?
All well and good having a nice ground ...........
Getting a bit tired of "Coley will unearth a diamond as usual"
Where is the scouting infrastructure ?
I'm hoping John gets support and a healthy budget at the end of the season and we can get away from this consistent high percentage of loan deals.

Thats half a fair comment Mr 8, but we spent 20 years putting everything we had into the squad whilst neglecting the infrastructure. It nearly cost us our club ...

 

[Twenty Eight]

Im well aware who determines the capacity, but Andy said at a fans forum that the council would not allow any meaningful ground expansion, as the local roads and lack of parking wont allow it. If you know different I suggest you pass it on to AH



Thats half a fair comment Mr 8, but we spent 20 years putting everything we had into the squad whilst neglecting the infrastructure. It nearly cost us our club ...

I know it’s a balancing act and let’s be right I’m not a long established die hard so it’s difficult for me to get into historical issues.
However that’s what it is - history.
For my limited time supporting the team home and away I would be appalled if we ended up with a neat and nice ground but a side mid table in League Two.
It took a monumental effort to get us to where we are but even the most blinkered fan must see we have to invest in the team.

 

[Chewbacca]

Im well aware who determines the capacity, but Andy said at a fans forum that the council would not allow any meaningful ground expansion, as the local roads and lack of parking wont allow it. If you know different I suggest you pass it on to AH

Highways issues are still LCC. HBC consult with LCC on Highways when
any PP or pre-app is submitted, and listen to what LCC say like all districts do. The same goes for any development.

 

[cashman]

I know it’s a balancing act and let’s be right I’m not a long established die hard so it’s difficult for me to get into historical issues.
However that’s what it is - history.
For my limited time supporting the team home and away I would be appalled if we ended up with a neat and nice ground but a side mid table in League Two.
It took a monumental effort to get us to where we are but even the most blinkered fan must see we have to invest in the team.

Aye and will yeh still be here when certain people leave the club? somehow i dont think so.

 

[Spartacus2nd]

Highways issues are still LCC. HBC consult with LCC on Highways when
any PP or pre-app is submitted, and listen to what LCC say like all districts do. The same goes for any development.

Tbf, iirc, it was tptb mentioned ...

So, abbreviations aside, 'the council' could be Lancashire or Hyndburn?

Its irrelevant who. The point is that he was told it is unlikely that we could significantly increase the capacity for yhe aforementioned reasons

 

[Spartacus2nd]

However that’s what it is - history.
For my limited time supporting the team home and away I would be appalled if we ended up with a neat and nice ground but a side mid table in League Two.

Me too, can you imagine the ignominy of having to watch lower league football every week? #shudderswithhorror

After watching league 2 football every week for 12 years, in 3rd world conditions, Im sure that FANS would adapt soon enough

 

[Spartacus2nd]

I know it’s a balancing act and let’s be right I’m not a long established die hard so it’s difficult for me to get into historical issues.
However that’s what it is - history..

Well Michael, thankfully, there are enough people around the club who understand the virtue of history and learning its lessons.

We ejaculated all our money on players to survive in league 2, we did durvive but the cost of almost losing the club was too high for me. Id sooner sell the lot and gamble on the Youth team keeping us up. Relegation is a vanity issue.

 

[Twenty Eight]

Well Michael, thankfully, there are enough people around the club who understand the virtue of history and learning its lessons.

We ejaculated all our money on players to survive in league 2, we did durvive but the cost of almost losing the club was too high for me. Id sooner sell the lot and gamble on the Youth team keeping us up. Relegation is a vanity issue.

That’s fair enough and as long as everyone sees it that way the club will be “safe”
However only today Coley is talking about top two league one next season.
How can that be feasible without investment in the squad ?

 

[Twenty Eight]

Aye and will yeh still be here when certain people leave the club? somehow i dont think so.

Do you know what ? That summarises the insular attitude when you’re trying to attract new supporters.
I’ve been home and away since 2014 and enjoyed most of it.
I’m semi retired now and see no reason why I wouldn’t carry on.
I’ve met some great people during that time.

 

[Twenty Eight]

Well Michael, thankfully, there are enough people around the club who understand the virtue of history and learning its lessons.

We ejaculated all our money on players to survive in league 2, we did durvive but the cost of almost losing the club was too high for me. Id sooner sell the lot and gamble on the Youth team keeping us up. Relegation is a vanity issue.

Do you think all of the fans see it as a vanity issue ?
What about the new fans we’re trying to attract giving shirts away etc ?
Do you think they will be happy not at least giving it a go at some point ?
I repeat it’s a balancing issue but at the moment there’s no fulcrum.
Everything getting plugged into ground etc nothing into the squad.

 

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

We ejaculated all our money on players to survive in league 2, we did durvive but the cost of almost losing the club was too high for me. Id sooner sell the lot and gamble on the Youth team keeping us up. Relegation is a vanity issue.

You seem to have a forensic knowledge of the financial history at ASFC.
If we did 'ejaculate' as you put it, all our money on players in the hope of surviving league 2, then it was a gamble that paid-off.
'Relegation a vanity issue'. How so?
If, God forbid, we got relegated this season, those 'Johnny-come-lately' fans would disappear faster than a 1st class passenger on the Titanic.
If we can survive we may well still be playing Sunderland next year, together with possibly Bolton & Rotherham from the Championship & neighbours Bury from League 2.
All these teams would bring large away support due to their proximity.
ditto Lincoln, who's fans will be on cloud nine if they reach League 1.
Make no mistake, relegation would be a disaster for us.
Ground improvements aside, I'm sure that Andy Holt & John Coleman will do whatever is necessary to avoid that outcome.

 

[Wynonie Harris]

and lack of TG;

So what's happening on that score? Thought we had big plans for a site near Read, but it all seems to have gone quiet now?

 

[cashman]

Do you know what ? That summarises the insular attitude when you’re trying to attract new supporters.
I’ve been home and away since 2014 and enjoyed most of it.
I’m semi retired now and see no reason why I wouldn’t carry on.
I’ve met some great people during that time.

Thats good dont mind fer a min being wrong if thats the case,

 

[monkey hanger]

I repeat it’s a balancing issue but at the moment there’s no fulcrum.
Everything getting plugged into ground etc nothing into the squad.

agree to a point but i suppose we could just about afford to buy a half a million pound player but with that price on his head how could we pay the wages he would demand and still keep the rest of the team happy. we just have to go down the line of what we are doing now and just hope we do not make a mistake one season in signing a few that do not come off and poor loan signings. rhink relagation would see off the majority of the newer fans we have picked up as their vanity would not see em back.