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Feel sorry for Macclesfield - & yet again Stevenage come up smelling of roses, ah well at least we won't be playing 'em
 
andyd said:
Macclesfield relegated after EFL,s appeal upheld but yet again the EFL shows how inept it is enforcing Macclesfield,s deduction of points this season and letting Sheffield Wednesday,s carry over to next season what inconsistencies and we wait for guidelines on the current rules for next season from this good for nothing organisation not fit for purpose.
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You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.
 
Twenty Eight said:
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.
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The reason for a lot of inconsistencies to me in football governance is the layers being involved and taking their fees out of the pot rules are to be followed should be straight forward and no need to be bent and twisted in the courts.
 
andyd said:
The reason for a lot of inconsistencies to me in football governance is the layers being involved and taking their fees out of the pot rules are to be followed should be straight forward and no need to be bent and twisted in the courts.
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What rules were not followed?

Why would you apply a points deducted for an historic offence on the previous season rather than the next one? When Spurs had point deducted it was applied to the next season.

There are no hard and fast FFP punishment rules so it is possible to show discretion.
 
Twenty Eight said:
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.
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Non Payment of wages should be nothing to do with the EFL it just opens cans of worms where the only losers are the clubs fans.

Simple really if an employer fails to pay you on time as a player you with the assistance of your union take civil court action as would any other employee and the only way the FL would need to get involved would be if that action then resulted in games being postponed because the players had withdrawn their labour the penalties would then be imposed of the person [stated on the website as being in control] who ultimately decided not to pay the wages on time in the first place.

Things will not improve until the FL start acting in the intrests of the clubs [ and therefore their fans ] and not that of the owners and that can start by imposing personal financial penalties [ which i would then sell on at say 50% to factoring companies who would then use the meanest badass debt collectors to enforce them. The sight of a few Lamboughinis disappearing off a few football club owners driveways might start to focus a few owners minds just a bit.
 
Twenty Eight said:
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.
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I think we all know how the appeals panels work.

Problem is they work one way for big clubs with history like Sheffield Wednesday and a completely different way for clubs like Macclefield town.

Cant you just see the ****stom that would kick off if SWFC were relegated a division let alone licked out of the league by it. Yet for Macclesfield it hardly warrents a mention.

And why dont we get to know who was on the pannel and how much they were paid to be and how many of them were the real people who matter in this the real fans.
 
NORTHERNSOUL said:
Non Payment of wages should be nothing to do with the EFL it just opens cans of worms where the only losers are the clubs fans.



Things will not improve until the FL start acting in the intrests of the clubs [ and therefore their fans ]

yes fans. the biggest group of people affected by all this stuff but are never thought about. its not as if a person who just rolls up every home game pays his admission fee for the club they prefer to watch can do anything about what happens behind the scenes. if you have any other business apart from football its the customers that usually come first. without these customers at the outset there would be no macclesfield, stevenage or pedigree dog food either.
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cashman said:
shame Satanage have come out ok.
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know that they have signed a number of players already. just wonder if these players are ones they consider to make em competitive in the national league or division 2 next season. could be an interesting season for them.
 
Twenty Eight said:
Don’t get me going about Bury.
My Firm represented a potential buyer who put a bid in.
Due diligence was horrific.
Offer withdrawn.
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I can see what you mean. This club statement on 7 August made it 'clear' that Bury FC owned Gigg Lane and it wasn't for sale or being repossessed: https://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/latest-statement-07-08-2020/august/club-statement-august-2020/

Three days later, in this semi-literate, incoherent statement, the chairman admitted that the club owed £3.7M on the ground and £2.8M on the car park: https://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/latest-statement-07-08-2020/august/statement-from-the-chairman/
 
News today that if Macc were to go to the court of sports arbitration [ the same one Man City recently appealed to ] and were successfull Stevenage would be relegated by 0.1 of a point under PPG.
 
News today that if Macc were to go to the court of sports arbitration [ the same one Man City recently appealed to ] and were successfull Stevenage would be relegated by 0.1 of a point under PPG.

Trouble is it takes 18 months to 2 years to get a decision and you would expect they would ask that the decision against them be suspended until the final decision [ as City did ] meaning either League two would have to be suspended for two years or they would have to let them continue to play in it until a final determination was made.

Which maybe explains the remarks of a certain League two CEO who for weeks when talking about the uncertainty keeps refering to not knowing how many clubs there might be.

Sounds to me like hes been having the crack with his mate the League Two Rep.
 
NORTHERNSOUL said:
I think we all know how the appeals panels work.

Problem is they work one way for big clubs with history like Sheffield Wednesday and a completely different way for clubs like Macclefield town.

Cant you just see the ****stom that would kick off if SWFC were relegated a division let alone licked out of the league by it. Yet for Macclesfield it hardly warrents a mention.

And why dont we get to know who was on the pannel and how much they were paid to be and how many of them were the real people who matter in this the real fans.
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I ask again. Look at the offence(s) committed by the respective clubs.
Now give me one good reason for the basis to compare the two cases.
 
The appeal,s procedures which would were money is involved will favour richer clubs the decision,s on both Macclesfield and Charlton being relegated because they choose to defer Wednesday,s punishment could kill both clubs off they as clubs haven't been run very well I admit but to save Stevenage when they were down by a country mile stinks football is awash with dodgy owners, agents, lawyers all picking there bits from the carcass.
 
NORTHERNSOUL said:
News today that if Macc were to go to the court of sports arbitration [ the same one Man City recently appealed to ] and were successfull Stevenage would be relegated by 0.1 of a point under PPG.
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there needs to be a cut off somewhere with all these appeals. clubs need to know a FINAL decision to prepare for a new season. actually not bothered who goes down between stevenage or macclesfield but a final decision needs arriving at.
 
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