Black &Tan

I dont remember the bar-men at the Derby being sophisticated in those days to be able to find a spoon never mind pour it over one.
Oh never saw that occur around here or anywhere fer that matter,i was referring to what the actual drink was.;)
 
Lots of them ... and in Clayton too ... I used to enjoy a pint in the Village Blacksmith on Bayley St.. Come to think of it, working at Dutton's was my first real summer job. We got a beer allowance in the morning and one in the afternoon ... health and safety :rofl38:... god knows how many of us had a glow on by 3:00 pm:alright:

Oh ... and I remember Black and Tan as half best bitter and half Guinness. What were the words in that song about Liverpool? Something like "there's lots of girls with peroxide curls; and the black and tan flows free.?" Anyone remember Black Velvet? Half Guiness and half cider?
My wife and I used to spend one night a week in the Village Blacksmith playing darts late 1950s
 
First had Black and Tan in the Hope and Anchor, Bitter and Draught Guinness. Another one, but not my preference at all was Black Velvet, Cider and stout I believe
 
First had Black and Tan in the Hope and Anchor, Bitter and Draught Guinness. Another one, but not my preference at all was Black Velvet, Cider and stout I believe
Spot on wi Black Velvet les, trouble wi those they went down too easy.:eek::D
 
Spot on wi Black Velvet les, trouble wi those they went down too easy.:eek::D

The real Black Velvet was Guinness and Champagne - Deutche(DinG ?) Sec made a good and more reasonably priced substitute and you get seriously blitzed on that - suffered quite a few times.:)
 
The real Black Velvet was Guinness and Champagne - Deutche(DinG ?) Sec made a good and more reasonably priced substitute and you get seriously blitzed on that - suffered quite a few times.:)

Aye Barrie, Sekt (Fizzy wine) is most definitely "Beliebt" by the Germans. It's the poor mans Champers, although I'd still sooner have a pint of the many & varied quality Beers they make here. :)
 
Aye Barrie, Sekt (Fizzy wine) is most definitely "Beliebt" by the Germans. It's the poor mans Champers, although I'd still sooner have a pint of the many & varied quality Beers they make here. :)
I believe the fact there are many yon,is down to the fact it don't travel well, so many places have own brew?;)
 
I believe the fact there are many yon,is down to the fact it don't travel well, so many places have own brew?;)

Oh I don't know Cashy, the Beer travels well enough it's just that a lot of the Germans are rather parochial & tend not to be very open to new experiences as far as Beer & food are concerned, "Was der Bauer nicht kennt, frisst er nicht !" is a common expression here, loosely translated "What the farmer doesn't know, he won't eat !"

Plus local beers for local people, seems an oft expressed maxim here & yes there are quite a few Breweries that are still competitive against the multi million internationals, and long should it remain so giving such a range & diversity which has slowly disappeared from the UK, although more Micro Brewers are starting to set up & revitalise the Beer interest in UK which to my mind can only be a good thing. :)
 
Oh I don't know Cashy, the Beer travels well enough it's just that a lot of the Germans are rather parochial & tend not to be very open to new experiences as far as Beer & food are concerned, "Was der Bauer nicht kennt, frisst er nicht !" is a common expression here, loosely translated "What the farmer doesn't know, he won't eat !"

Plus local beers for local people, seems an oft expressed maxim here & yes there are quite a few Breweries that are still competitive against the multi million internationals, and long should it remain so giving such a range & diversity which has slowly disappeared from the UK, although more Micro Brewers are starting to set up & revitalise the Beer interest in UK which to my mind can only be a good thing. :)
I'm only saying what eric told us, he worked in a factory yon many years ago n the krauts told him that.:confused:
 
I'm only saying what eric told us, he worked in a factory yon many years ago n the krauts told him that.:confused:

Not knocking Eric or his info :) I think it's more a regional mindset, I remember chatting with him about his time in Germany the other year when we were over. I mean I can travel the length & breadth of the Country & I can guarantee I'd find the likes of Krombacher, Becks, Veltins & Diebels Alt in most places, but the likes of Kölsch, Einbecker & Augustiner not so readily unless I was in & around the area these fine beverages are brewed, that or some enterprising wheeler & dealer sees a spot in the market where he is & "imports" it. ;)
 
Not knocking Eric or his info :) I think it's more a regional mindset, I remember chatting with him about his time in Germany the other year when we were over. I mean I can travel the length & breadth of the Country & I can guarantee I'd find the likes of Krombacher, Becks, Veltins & Diebels Alt in most places, but the likes of Kölsch, Einbecker & Augustiner not so readily unless I was in & around the area these fine beverages are brewed, that or some enterprising wheeler & dealer sees a spot in the market where he is & "imports" it. ;)
Mind yeh dave the krauts coulda been telling him porkies? Ah mean i seem to remember hearing they told Stalin a few?:D;)
 
Tried many different ones during my trips to Berlin, RheinD and the "clutch" stations. Subtle differences but also some quite specific ones between say Berlin & Dusseldorf, although as DinG says some brews are everywhere - Grolsch, Lowenbrau etc. Wherever, it was almost always good,especially with Apfelkorn chasers and the major brewers certainly ship their brews around
 
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