Breast Implants

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If the breast implants purchased from the French company but fitted in England prove dangerous to health should they be replaced on the NHS.
 
not unless the nhs put them in there no


if people have found money to put them in they can find it to take them out but if the work was done on the NHS then yes the NHS should take them out.
 
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Most of these implants were done at private clinics......the NHS will take out the implants free of charge,(because the ruptured implants cause ill health) but if the woman wants the implant replacing, then she has to pay.
The French company who produced these substandard implants is in liquidation. So there is not much chance of these women suing, and getting much in the way of compensation.
 
Most of these implants were done at private clinics......the NHS will take out the implants free of charge,(because the ruptured implants cause ill health) but if the woman wants the implant replacing, then she has to pay.
The French company who produced these substandard implants is in liquidation. So there is not much chance of these women suing, and getting much in the way of compensation.


so not only do their fake boobs not stand up but the company itself is in a liquid state :D
 
not unless the nhs put them in there no


if people have found money to put them in they can find it to take them out but if the work was done on the NHS then yes the NHS should take them out.
I'm wi accyman 100% on this. n whilst there at it the NHS should not treat anyone that pops oer here fer a freebie, having never paid a cent into the system.
 
From the reports I have read some of these women should have been allowed to have their breast augmentation on the NHS.......one poor lady had breasts of different sizes(No jokes about Devizes, please).......she just wanted to look normal instead of having to stuff one side of her bra with socks.......but she was knocked back...so paid for her own.
Cashy, I'm with you on the health tourist thing.......it shouldn't be happening anyway if the policies and procedures were followed properly, but I know it does happen.
It is stealing, fraud...... and should be stopped.
 
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From the reports I have read some of these women should have been allowed to have their breast augmentation on the NHS.......one poor lady had breasts of different sizes(No jokes about Devizes, please).......she just wanted to look normal instead of having to stuff one side of her bra with socks.......but she was knocked back...so paid for her own.
Cashy, I'm with you on the health tourist thing.......it shouldn't be happening anyway if the policies and procedures were followed properly, but I know it does happen.
It is stealing, fraud...... and should be stopped.
Cases like that should be looked at on a individual basis in my view, am sure many were not of that nature?
 
You maybe right, but you and I both know that GP practices are able to fund(or not fund) certain procedures...and health trusts have the same facility. When you hear that a trust will not fund Herceptin( a drug which extends the life of a breast cancer sufferer) then nothing surprises me.

The thing about these PIP implants is, that if left, they cause damage to the local tissues and also diminish the immune response to everyday illnesses.....causing women to be ill, unable to function and earn a living.
The NHS will remove the implants, but won't replace them...leaving women disfigured.

In essence, this should mean that they become eligible for reconstructive surgery as their psychological balance is affected.

In my estimation,(but then what do I know?) the health tourism problem is much greater financial drain than treating these women.
 
From the reports I have read some of these women should have been allowed to have their breast augmentation on the NHS.......one poor lady had breasts of different sizes(No jokes about Devizes, please).......she just wanted to look normal instead of having to stuff one side of her bra with socks.......but she was knocked back...so paid for her own.
Cash, I'm with you on the health tourist thing.......it shouldn't be happening anyway if the policies and procedures were followed properly, but I know it does happen.
It is stealing, fraud...... and should be stopped.
It has been reported that some people in the States and othere countries have actually scheduled there confinement to occur during a holiday to GB, knowing it will cost um nout if they have the sprog here :eek:
 
now times are hard people are begining to see that suggesting people who havnt paid a damn thing into this country shouldnt get free NHS treatment isnt racist.

now all we need to do is also stop giving away expensive aids and h.i.v treatment to africans that manage to sneak into this country or come here knowing they are infected.

people in this country have to play postcode lottery as to if they get treated for certain illnesses like cancer yet someone can walk in to the UK and get free treatment for anything because treating them is supposedly the right thing to do :rolleyes:
 
As other people have said it depends on the reason. I know a couple of people who have had these procedures because of reasons such as their breasts being two different sizes or low self esteem that leads to genuine mental health issues. To be honest if the procedure has been done privately then that should be covered by the private clinic anyway.

I find it hard to hear people talk about 'foreigners' receiving treatment and all the rest of it. HIV doesn't discriminate, it affects people from all walks of life. Plenty of people come to this country bringing vital skills. Plenty of people are born in this country who also waste resources.

The NHS will now send people from this country to others in certain circumstances to receive treatment that we can't offer quickly enough. Would you like to be told you can't have your life saved because another country doesn't see why they should save you? Is that what humanity is all about? I didn't realise we lived in such archaic times.
 
The NHS will now send people from this country to others in certain circumstances to receive treatment that we can't offer quickly enough. Would you like to be told you can't have your life saved because another country doesn't see why they should save you?

They've been doing this for a while now with other European Countries & I believe on occasion also with the States & it's a completely different set up to the situation alluded to by some posters.

"Health tourism" is a major drain on the UK's resources & the NHS have no way of recouping those costs, because those who come for treatment haven't been referred by a reciprocating Country, but have come due to the lax UK controls.
 
They've been doing this for a while now with other European Countries & I believe on occasion also with the States & it's a completely different set up to the situation alluded to by some posters.

"Health tourism" is a major drain on the UK's resources & the NHS have no way of recouping those costs, because those who come for treatment haven't been referred by a reciprocating Country, but have come due to the lax UK controls.

They also send people to some asian countries. I came across it when I was studying medical law. There are of course loopholes which people from other countries exploit but we live in a world in which everyone does this. Are you telling me that if you couldn't get treatment here you wouldn't see if you could get the treatment elsewhere? Because the very first thing I would do is get onto the internet and see what I could do to get whatever treatment I needed or wanted.

Most people who end up needing expensive treatment probably haven't covered it through their own individual NHS contributions anyway. Maybe we should start only offering people services up to the value of what they have contributed and make them foot the rest of the bill themselves? Would you consider that to be a better system? It'd certainly stop health tourism. Unfortunately it'd also stop most of us receiving treatment for life threatening conditions if we should need it.

My point is that you aren't going to create a perfect system. These particular procedures though aren't just handed out willy nilly, you have to undergo all sorts of assessments to get the treatment. And as I said, the women who got private treatment should have the implants replaced privately anyway at the expense of whatever clinic they used. The ones on the NHS will have had their treatment for medical reasons so why shouldn't they have them replaced at our expense? If they're being opened up to take an implant out anyway then they might as well just put in another one at the same time (though I appreciate that it may not be this simple, I'm not a doctor)
 
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