Brian Clough RIP

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He has been sadly missed by the game for the last eleven years - he would never have tolerated jumped up little muppets like Kieron Dyer refusing to play in a position and other such namby-pamby dummy spitting incidents that seem to run rife in modern day football. Sadly he will now be sorely missed in life as well.

Clough Story - When Teddy Sheringham fisrt broke into the Forest team he approached Cloughie to ask for some tickets for his family. Cloughie replied - "Edward, if your f*****g family wont pay to watch you play who will?!"
 
Very sad news indeed. I agree with Kenny Burns who said that what he achieved in the game was greater than Sir Alf Ramsey winning the world cup circa '66. Great manager: Great man!
 
I'll always remember the time he was slapping those pitch invaders lol

I dont remember it directly but ive seen it on film many a time. :D

RIP
 
I had a lot of respect for him up till the time of Hillsborough.

I lost all respect for this man when he made a mockery of the memories of Hillsborough April 89. Just because he's passed away doesn't mean I'll change my view.

My sympathies go to his family but my respect went years ago.....

He retracted his comments since then, but there was no excuse for what he said, repeated and published.

Otherwise he was a great manager.
 
Great men, unfortunately, are not immune from making mistakes - some of them maybe great mistakes but what I admired most about Cloughie was not what he said but his amazing ability to take an average decent player and make him perform like a worldbeater (John McGovern was a prime example). He did it time and time again. There was the magic and the genius of the man.
 
To the person who took away karma points because of my opinion of Brian Clough, you left me a message that said "not the time or the place", what Mr Clough said after Hillsborough to promote his book was disgraceful and upset a great many people, its a pity he didn't think about your quote "not the time or the place", before he spoke.

Next time don't be anonymous if you have an opinion I really don't mind who you are, remember this is a forum for your views also.
 
Yeah he was a great manager and always seemed to get the best from players if a little unorthodox at times with his methods, and controversial in his views, he was a character though and we always need them, love em or hate em :)
 
That would be me bagpuss and I presumed if I left a comment then it would show who had left it... If you had posted your moans about the bloke 15 minutes later then at least it wouldnt have been on the day of his death...

We all make mistakes in life but the worse thing that can happen to us is to die.. I feel the day someone dies is the day you either give your condolances or say nothing... Moan about him after the funaral. or after the day he died.. but not on the day..... not the day he dies.. thats just sick IN MY OPINION.

Thats why I took the karma and I really did think it would show you who took it if i left that comment. I am probably the least anonymous person on this messageboard.. I thought I would make my point to you privatly in that way rather than publicly and start an argumant..

I have taken it off two poeple in the accystanley area... one for slagging off england and st georges day.. and one for having a pop at brian clough on the day he died instead of waiting...

And guess what.. I stand by both and couldnt give a toss what you or anyone else thinks of that.. happy ? well I am :)
 
I think there should, on a lighter note, be a vote to determine who is "the least anonymous person on this messageboard". Could be a few contenders.
 
:rose8: I agree with Bagpuss and if you want to take all my Karma points go ahead Brian Clough said.....On national television "it’s got to be said they were drunk and they killed their own." 96 people died at hillsbrough, It clearly ignores the evidence detailed in the
Taylor report, and Scraton’s study, which both show that the late arrival of ticketless fans was not a contributory factor to the disaster. More importantly, Clough’s opinion was offensive, dismissive and alienating to the families affected by the tragedy, and Clough was such a great man that to just to sell his book he made comments like that. Just for the record the comments were made before the funerals of most of the 96 that died, come to think if Clough had posted them on here Kipax could have taken his Karma points!
 
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That would be me bagpuss and I presumed if I left a comment then it would show who had left it... If you had posted your moans about the bloke 15 minutes later then at least it wouldnt have been on the day of his death...

We all make mistakes in life but the worse thing that can happen to us is to die.. I feel the day someone dies is the day you either give your condolances or say nothing... Moan about him after the funaral. or after the day he died.. but not on the day..... not the day he dies.. thats just sick IN MY OPINION.

Thats why I took the karma and I really did think it would show you who took it if i left that comment. I am probably the least anonymous person on this messageboard.. I thought I would make my point to you privatly in that way rather than publicly and start an argumant..

I have taken it off two poeple in the accystanley area... one for slagging off england and st georges day.. and one for having a pop at brian clough on the day he died instead of waiting...

And guess what.. I stand by both and couldnt give a toss what you or anyone else thinks of that.. happy ? well I am :)
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And Mr Kipax I stand by my comments that I lost respect for Mr Clough a long time ago, I didn't make a joke about his death or slag him off as you attemped to do to me. As I said the man was a great manager and my sympathies go to his family, remember Nigel Clough was an ex Liverpool player.
You perhaps are not aware of his comments or how his words upset a great many people and still do, I'm guessing that you haven't read his book but you will be aware after reading Bazf's post of what was said.
Maybe in future you should read posts twice before condeming them "for having a pop", which I did not at Brian Clough.
 
I am NOT arguing that what he said was right or wrong.. I commented on your timing.. the guy just died.. If niether of you can see my point then fair enough.. but try not to twist my words.. I never said what he did was right..


as for you bazf.. you totally missed my point.. I took the karma points as a private way (or so i thought) of showing him i thought the timing of his moan was off... Your having the same moan but NOT on the day he died.. so why would I want to complain? my complaint isnt about what he did.. it was about bagpuss raking it up on such a sad day


please explain what part of that your not following?
 
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