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Following on from Mez's issue the other week I was talking to a young lady about cigarette ends in Broadway the other week and asking how strict they are re the litter problem. ( In Burnley they have been fining you for about 3 years for dropping cigartee ends.)

The answer to my question was in the Telegraph the other day;

SMOKERS were hit with £75 fines after throwing their cigarette butts on the floor.
Two shoppers in Broadway, Accrington, and a motorist in Eastgate were spotted littering by Hyndburn Council enforc-ement officers from environmental services.

Also in the Telegraph they have been clamping down in Blackburn, but notice which one of the 3 got the heaviest fine :confused:

Three men have been ordered to pay a total of £700 for dropping litter.
The prosecutions were brought by Blackburn with Darwen Council as part of zero tolerance campaign on rubbish.
Bosses said taxi driver Mohammed Azad, of St James Road, Blackburn, was fined £70 and ordered to pay £149 court costs for throwing a cigarette butt from a black cab he was driving.
He threw the butt from the drivers' window as he drove along Bolton Road on Wednesday, March 28.
Waqqar Malik, of Pringle Street, was also fined £70 and ordered to pay £149 court costs after he threw a penalty charge notice on the ground in Church Street on Friday, March 9.
And Daniel Ostle, of Gannon Lane, Burnley, was ordered to pay a fine of £100 and £149 court costs after he was caught throwing food wrappings from the car he was driving in Bolton Road, Blackburn, on March 9.
 
It's £75 for any sort of litter but only £50 for dog poop - which is a bit out of sync - should be £100 for both!!!!
 
I was in Blackburn on Monday first time in 30 years, having been out of the car not less than 2 min, I crossed the duel carrageway to find an Asain chap taking a **** up against some poor buggers front wall, the house not the Garden.

Dave I was wondering way the guy who was throwing food wrappings was fined £30 qiud more than the other two?
 
Food wrappings attract rats. Cigarette ends do not. Therefore dropping food litter is probably considered a more serious offence.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
Food wrappings attract rats. Cigarette ends do not. Therefore dropping food litter is probably considered a more serious offence.
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Accepted; but I would have thought that a fag end thrown form a moving vehicle would have been an health and safety issue as well as a danger to the pedestrian public. i.e. there’s a risk of fire; or the possibility of a pedestrian, a child in a pram or animal being brunt should it have landed on one of them? But my point was litter is litter and the fine should have been the same.
 
Whats one supposed to do if theres no cigrette end recepticable close by? With the chance of it setting a litter bin alight,thus maybe costing £££££'s,is'nt it better just to stub it out on the floor........dear me,a smoker just can't win these days:mad:
 
maxwell silver said:
Whats one supposed to do if theres no cigrette end recepticable close by? With the chance of it setting a litter bin alight,thus maybe costing £££££'s,is'nt it better just to stub it out on the floor........dear me,a smoker just can't win these days:mad:
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Portable metal ashtrays with lids ensure that the stub can be safely extinguished and taken home with you. An old Baccy tin (or similar) would do the same.
 
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Portable metal ashtrays with lids ensure that the stub can be safely extinguished and taken home with you. An old Baccy tin (or similar) would do the same.
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Take it your a non smoker yourself,Margaret.Are you a driver of the automible persuasion perhaps?Then maybe you could put all your carbon monoxide emmisions in a small tin that you could carry around in your pocket & maybe carry around a recepticale of some sort to catch all the ..........sorry,i'm on a rant & well to take your argument to the extreme should'nt that mean that everyone walks around with their own personal waste disposal bag,just in case the councils budget does'nt allow for adequate waste bins & only flower baskets(though,not a vandal or yob,i'm beginning to see another use for these).Do something about the unsightly chewing gum on the streets,then maybe i'll think about where i put my cig end.
 
maxwell silver said:
Take it your a non smoker yourself,Margaret.Are you a driver of the automible persuasion perhaps?Then maybe you could put all your carbon monoxide emmisions in a small tin that you could carry around in your pocket & maybe carry around a recepticale of some sort to catch all the ..........sorry,i'm on a rant & well to take your argument to the extreme should'nt that mean that everyone walks around with their own personal waste disposal bag,just in case the councils budget does'nt allow for adequate waste bins & only flower baskets(though,not a vandal or yob,i'm beginning to see another use for these).Do something about the unsightly chewing gum on the streets,then maybe i'll think about where i put my cig end.
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I do 30 a day, but most of them at home. I have no objection to carrying a small tin around. I had 2 ciggies today at open air Metro station platforms and did not leave my stubs behind. The looks of approval from other waiting passengers made that small bit of effort worthwhile, especially since I was standing amongst several stubs left there by previous travellers.
 
I hope they get all the people that throw chewing gum down on the floor to:

not only does this look a mess, but you can't just pick it up they have to clean it with the machine....

I think this is just another way of getting more money, after all if many stop smoking ( and very goos that will be) there wont be the same income from taxes... also many buy their smokes abroad hence yet another drop in taxes... they will get us one way or another... oh and they should also put high taxes on sweets.....
 
maxwell silver said:
Whats one supposed to do if theres no cigrette end recepticable close by? With the chance of it setting a litter bin alight,thus maybe costing £££££'s,is'nt it better just to stub it out on the floor........dear me,a smoker just can't win these days:mad:
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Why should the non smokers have to provide the smokers with anything to put their hazardous waste into, take it home with you if you are a smoker, why expect someone else to clean up at the back of you.:confused:
 
Ianto.W. said:
Why should the non smokers have to provide the smokers with anything to put their hazardous waste into, take it home with you if you are a smoker, why expect someone else to clean up at the back of you.:confused:
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you pay for the needle bins for the druggies....:rolleyes:
 
Ianto.W. said:
If I had my way they would be big enough to get the druggies in as well, don't change the subject magpie I was disscussing stinky smokers.:p:rolleyes:
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Sounds like a Grumpy to me.
I cant see that this thread started off as a" No smoking campaign" did it?
 
smoking is a habit ( hence drug) that's where I made the connection:

litter is litter fair enough... however we need the right bins to put it in....

That way there is no way out of it.... fags ends can be swept up but chewing gum is a different kind of litter when thrown on the floor...:p:D:p
 
Ianto.W. said:
Why should the non smokers have to provide the smokers with anything to put their hazardous waste into, take it home with you if you are a smoker, why expect someone else to clean up at the back of you.:confused:
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Oh dear Ian, got a real cob on today, haven't we?

Why should I also pay to providing litter bins for people who insist on feeding their faces outside in town centres ... always brought up to believe this was bad-mannered. !!! So, you bad-mannered people, please take your Maccy/sweet /sandwich/crisp wrappers/coke tins waste home with you.

I like, Margaret, (as mentioned for the 3rd time !) have been using a little tin ashtray to dock my butt ... my daughter has one in the form of a key ring .. think this is a good idea, as never forgets to take it with her, due to house keys being there too.

Wonder why the court costs ? Did these people fight their case ? How stupid!!

Magpie: Think eventually will have to go down the road of Singapore and ban chewing gum from the country... seems only solution to me.
 
katex said:
Oh dear Ian, got a real cob on today, haven't we?

Why should I also pay to providing litter bins for people who insist on feeding their faces outside in town centres ... always brought up to believe this was bad-mannered. !!! So, you bad-mannered people, please take your Maccy/sweet /sandwich/crisp wrappers/coke tins waste home with you.

I like, Margaret, (as mentioned for the 3rd time !) have been using a little tin ashtray to dock my butt ... my daughter has one in the form of a key ring .. think this is a good idea, as never forgets to take it with her, due to house keys being there too.

Wonder why the court costs ? Did these people fight their case ? How stupid!!

Magpie: Think eventually will have to go down the road of Singapore and ban chewing gum from the country... seems only solution to me.
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Well said Kate --we smokers are being treated like lepers at the moment - if we show we are doing our best by only smoking in open air sites and by taking our butts away with us it will reduce the hostility and we MAY get some sympathy for our addiction
 
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