And this from a "Nu Labour" supporter...priceless!
There you go again Wynonie, trying to label me. I support the local Labour party - as I have said many times, this does not necessarily mean that I support the national party on all issues!
Camerons Speech
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There you go again Wynonie, trying to label me. I support the local Labour party - as I have said many times, this does not necessarily mean that I support the national party on all issues!
I know, I know, Gayle. Just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Just trying to cheer meself up! 
Never mind Nu Labour, the Tories under Cameron are definitely Conservative-Lite.
Whilst in Blackpool this week Theresa May, amongst other M.P.'s, was strutting her leopard skinned stuff at their annual Absolutely Equal 'gay disco'.
The Tory old guard must be choking on their oranges, and by that I mean Britvic, and not the fruit, used in some auto-erotic sex game.
Whilst in Blackpool this week Theresa May, amongst other M.P.'s, was strutting her leopard skinned stuff at their annual Absolutely Equal 'gay disco'.
The Tory old guard must be choking on their oranges, and by that I mean Britvic, and not the fruit, used in some auto-erotic sex game.
It wasn't, as speeches go, a bad speech, but it wasn't a good one either. And I think that just about sums up the state of the party at the moment; middling. It has too much of the Curate's egg about it.
I can remember listening to the blessed Margaret, in her prime, when she had the Conference hanging on her every word and gesture. She delivered big, bold, no-nonsense ideas and objectives and the party and the country backed her to the hilt; even though one half suspects that it was because they were too intimidated by her to do anything else.
Cameron, it strikes me, would like to be seen as the Tory equivalent of Blair, but without the maniacal ego; it won't work, he will just end up becoming a sort of vaguely right - ish Charles Kennedey.
I can remember listening to the blessed Margaret, in her prime, when she had the Conference hanging on her every word and gesture. She delivered big, bold, no-nonsense ideas and objectives and the party and the country backed her to the hilt; even though one half suspects that it was because they were too intimidated by her to do anything else.
Cameron, it strikes me, would like to be seen as the Tory equivalent of Blair, but without the maniacal ego; it won't work, he will just end up becoming a sort of vaguely right - ish Charles Kennedey.
cameron will never be prime minister, hes a prat!!
hes creepy too
Neither quality stopped Tony Bliar!
Cameron looks just like commander Data in startrek,,,,i wonder if he has a cat called spot,,,,,,
agree with AB wasn't a bad speech, what it omitted was how the hell he was going to pay for it. lol according to economists anyway. as for brown pinching the policies cyfr if he did he watered em down a bit and SAID how he was going to pay for em.
The Tories get more and more like the Lib Dems by the day!..grabbing unrealist figures out of thin air, it was only a few weeks ago that Cameron said he would save British business £14 billion by "cutting red tape".. the only way to save anything like that sort of money would be by abolishing the minimum wage, abolishing maternity leave, and by taking health and safety regulations back into the 19th century!
Cameron can make as many promises as he likes, and as Garinda says, the old Tories must be choking on their brandy... but if he is ever elected those "old Tories" will get rid of him within 2 years.
Cameron can make as many promises as he likes, and as Garinda says, the old Tories must be choking on their brandy... but if he is ever elected those "old Tories" will get rid of him within 2 years.
Possibly, but Old Labour never got rid of Bliar, even after he'd chucked out clause 4 from the party constitution. Power is a great aphrodisiac!
OK..but clause 4 was chucked out mainly by the unions by a vote... and it was before Labour/Blair won the election... there is no way the grass roots nor the Maggie loving MP's in the Tory party will put up with a "soft socialist" like Cameron for to long, they ache for the good old 80's up down economy... Cameron has to deliver tax cuts, and the sort of tax cuts were the big earners save the most money.
The grass roots of the Labour party probably yearn for the days of mass nationalisation and beer and sandwiches with the union bosses at no 10, but they've put up with a "soft capitalist" like Tony for the last ten years. Seems to me that Nu-Labour and Tory-lite are mirror images of each other these days!
Saddened, but not really suprised, to see Cameron going back on his word.
He'd promised to keep the Punch and Judy element out of British politics, and there he was this week at Prime Minister's Question Time, going at it like Queen Bitch of the Bitch people.
He'd promised to keep the Punch and Judy element out of British politics, and there he was this week at Prime Minister's Question Time, going at it like Queen Bitch of the Bitch people.
agree with AB wasn't a bad speech, what it omitted was how the hell he was going to pay for it. lol according to economists anyway. as for brown pinching the policies cyfr if he did he watered em down a bit and SAID how he was going to pay for em.
Cameron laid down EXACTLY how he was going to pay for it. Don't listen to Brown propaganda!
Im not so sure I can believe that. When he was elected as leader he was clearly a "compassionate Conservative" if you will. He was elected by the grass roots, over 2/3 of them voted for him over the ring-wing Thatcherite policies of David Davis. And these are the "Old Torys" voting as people who joined the party just before Cameron was elected (Like me) didn't get to vote as you have to be a member for 6months.
Unfortunately as Politics goes you will always hear lots of a noise from a small minority, such as that of grammar schools. In reality when you wipe away the media gloss its not quite so hardcut. The press just love to blow things out of proportion, it gets them money.
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i was listening to economists not brown.
as i previously said,but typical tory= reads the bits they want. pmsldidn't read it,was listening to one of the news channels. you will never make a politition cyfr, i said listening not reading. pmsl