The penalty was a bit point blank range but not surprised it was given when you see it on telly. Arms come out and block the shot.
Charlton Thread.
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I wasn't at the match but from all accounts the officials were poor yet again. The time for more action to be taken against poor officials is long overdue. I am sure we all have our own ideas, In all divisions we see mistakes that are so blatantly obvious you wonder why the officials didn't see it. or at least explain why they made the decision. I don't expect perfection as anyone can make a mistake. VAR was seen to be lacking in the Derby v Sot'on game. Perhaps a good discussion and some positive suggestions that could be forwarded to the powers that be would help all our clubs.
Difficult to reasonably comment on a match like that one.
As to the officials, up until the sending offs they were OK. The linesmen first denied a Charlton goal but then cocked up big time as far as Stanley we’re concerned. After that his ‘assistant’ (i.e. the ref
) then totally lost control of things for the last ten minutes.
Unfortunately, however, I suspect the club will be in for a big fine for the way almost all the Stanley players ‘remonstrated’ with the linesman after the alleged penalty decision. Never seen such behaviour, outside of South America in the 70s, towards a match official.
From where we sat we couldn’t see what happened with Charlton’s disallowed goal, then goalmouth melee, then sending off. But the very brief video ‘highlights’ clearly show Maxted being knocked off his feet, which is why their goal was disallowed. It also seems to confirm Jimmy Bell’s view of that incident that Maxted was the wronged party. It wasn’t the first time Taylor has been a pain in Stanley’s posterior and his laughing at getting himself and Maxted sent off says much about him.
As to the penalty, again we were a long way from it, and the ref clearly didn’t blow up for it. But it was the same linesman again who ruled the roost. Strangely, Barlaser’s alleged offending arm was his right, the one in line of sight of the ref but on the wrong side for the linesman. Unless the latter also has x-ray vision.
Perhaps Referee Busby was frightened of over-ruling his linesman. Bullying in the work place, maybe?
Pity really, as it soured what was otherwise a good game. Agree with Mr.Bell that Stanley were not at their best. Bit disjointed and young Mr. Gibson was up against their most dangerous player in Taylor and his lack of match experience showed. Thought their midfield generally out played ours but I thought we battled enough for a point that was, frustratingly and perhaps harshly, denied Stanley in the end.
Five points from safety? The battle has begun.
As to the officials, up until the sending offs they were OK. The linesmen first denied a Charlton goal but then cocked up big time as far as Stanley we’re concerned. After that his ‘assistant’ (i.e. the ref
) then totally lost control of things for the last ten minutes. Unfortunately, however, I suspect the club will be in for a big fine for the way almost all the Stanley players ‘remonstrated’ with the linesman after the alleged penalty decision. Never seen such behaviour, outside of South America in the 70s, towards a match official.
From where we sat we couldn’t see what happened with Charlton’s disallowed goal, then goalmouth melee, then sending off. But the very brief video ‘highlights’ clearly show Maxted being knocked off his feet, which is why their goal was disallowed. It also seems to confirm Jimmy Bell’s view of that incident that Maxted was the wronged party. It wasn’t the first time Taylor has been a pain in Stanley’s posterior and his laughing at getting himself and Maxted sent off says much about him.
As to the penalty, again we were a long way from it, and the ref clearly didn’t blow up for it. But it was the same linesman again who ruled the roost. Strangely, Barlaser’s alleged offending arm was his right, the one in line of sight of the ref but on the wrong side for the linesman. Unless the latter also has x-ray vision.
Perhaps Referee Busby was frightened of over-ruling his linesman. Bullying in the work place, maybe?
Pity really, as it soured what was otherwise a good game. Agree with Mr.Bell that Stanley were not at their best. Bit disjointed and young Mr. Gibson was up against their most dangerous player in Taylor and his lack of match experience showed. Thought their midfield generally out played ours but I thought we battled enough for a point that was, frustratingly and perhaps harshly, denied Stanley in the end.
Five points from safety? The battle has begun.
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I have never seen Jimmy NOT angry............Just watched Jimmy Bell do the post match interview on the 'Fishy site'!
NEVER SEEN JIMMY SO ANGRY BEFORE.....
The penalty looks harsh, but equally I couldn’t see anything wrong with the goal that they headed in from the corner preceding the sending off, just melee and a keeper being blocked and over protected. Any views and what am I missing ?
That’s 9 points from our last 13 league games. I don’t expect Bradford or Plymouth (who we play second to last game) to finish in the bottom 3 so I’m looking at Rochdale and Gillingham as the teams to stay above, that’s a gap of 4 points not 5.
Listening to Jimmy in interview and the importance of that point lost today, I sense I’m not alone in looking over my shoulder.
Finally, Can we appeal Maxted red, the tv footage doesn’t convict him nor exonerate? Where is Richards Everton ?
That’s 9 points from our last 13 league games. I don’t expect Bradford or Plymouth (who we play second to last game) to finish in the bottom 3 so I’m looking at Rochdale and Gillingham as the teams to stay above, that’s a gap of 4 points not 5.
Listening to Jimmy in interview and the importance of that point lost today, I sense I’m not alone in looking over my shoulder.
Finally, Can we appeal Maxted red, the tv footage doesn’t convict him nor exonerate? Where is Richards Everton ?
Difficult to reasonably comment on a match like that one.
As to the officials, up until the sending offs they were OK. The linesmen first denied a Charlton goal but then cocked up big time as far as Stanley we’re concerned. After that his ‘assistant’ (i.e. the ref
Unfortunately, however, I suspect the club will be in for a big fine for the way almost all the Stanley players ‘remonstrated’ with the linesman after the alleged penalty decision. Never seen such behaviour, outside of South America in the 70s, towards a match official.
From where we sat we couldn’t see what happened with Charlton’s disallowed goal, then goalmouth melee, then sending off. But the very brief video ‘highlights’ clearly show Maxted being knocked off his feet, which is why their goal was disallowed. It also seems to confirm Jimmy Bell’s view of that incident that Maxted was the wronged party. It wasn’t the first time Taylor has been a pain in Stanley’s posterior and his laughing at getting himself and Maxted sent off says much about him.
As to the penalty, again we were a long way from it, and the ref clearly didn’t blow up for it. But it was the same linesman again who ruled the roost. Strangely, Barlaser’s alleged offending arm was his right, the one in line of sight of the ref but on the wrong side for the linesman. Unless the latter also has x-ray vision.
Perhaps Referee Busby was frightened of over-ruling his linesman. Bullying in the work place, maybe?
Pity really, as it soured what was otherwise a good game. Agree with Mr.Bell that Stanley were not at their best. Bit disjointed and young Mr. Gibson was up against their most dangerous player in Taylor and his lack of match experience showed. Thought their midfield generally out played ours but I thought we battled enough for a point that was, frustratingly and perhaps harshly, denied Stanley in the end.
Five points from safety? The battle has begun.
The truest words spoken this season I am afraid.........................
Forget about the controversial incidents to start with.
We were second best in the middle of the park.
Yet again our left side was targeted to great effect.
That said we created a couple of decent chances - but not as many as Charlton.
Now for the controversy.
I have no idea what kicked off when Charlton scored and who did what when how.
That’s with the benefit of looking at it now at least five times online and live so how the sendings off came about I don’t know.
Now the handball.
I immediately put my head in my hands when it happened.
I thought he left his arm out there.
If I’m honest had the boot been on the other foot I’d have been demanding a penalty.
That said the ref had the best view and said no.
How on earth the linesman could be so definitive baffles me.
We’re in a battle now and need to start getting points on the board.
Gillingham away is critical - we need something.
Next week is a distraction for me.
We were second best in the middle of the park.
Yet again our left side was targeted to great effect.
That said we created a couple of decent chances - but not as many as Charlton.
Now for the controversy.
I have no idea what kicked off when Charlton scored and who did what when how.
That’s with the benefit of looking at it now at least five times online and live so how the sendings off came about I don’t know.
Now the handball.
I immediately put my head in my hands when it happened.
I thought he left his arm out there.
If I’m honest had the boot been on the other foot I’d have been demanding a penalty.
That said the ref had the best view and said no.
How on earth the linesman could be so definitive baffles me.
We’re in a battle now and need to start getting points on the board.
Gillingham away is critical - we need something.
Next week is a distraction for me.
Stanley played and battled bravely throughout the game do think we are a bit lightweight in midfield and we need to start scoring not commenting on the decisions because these things happen but having said that we totally deserved a point today keep battling like that and we,ll be okay, just a mention on the day out best away trip in an age all locals polite and friendly helpful in pointing us to the right train to and from the car and to top it all drank pre match in a private club full of Millwall lads who have said come back anytime and use the club and carpark parking for free never call that club to me cracking lads.
Difficult to reasonably comment on a match like that one.
As to the officials, up until the sending offs they were OK. The linesmen first denied a Charlton goal but then cocked up big time as far as Stanley we’re concerned. After that his ‘assistant’ (i.e. the ref
Unfortunately, however, I suspect the club will be in for a big fine for the way almost all the Stanley players ‘remonstrated’ with the linesman after the alleged penalty decision. Never seen such behaviour, outside of South America in the 70s, towards a match official.
From where we sat we couldn’t see what happened with Charlton’s disallowed goal, then goalmouth melee, then sending off. But the very brief video ‘highlights’ clearly show Maxted being knocked off his feet, which is why their goal was disallowed. It also seems to confirm Jimmy Bell’s view of that incident that Maxted was the wronged party. It wasn’t the first time Taylor has been a pain in Stanley’s posterior and his laughing at getting himself and Maxted sent off says much about him.
As to the penalty, again we were a long way from it, and the ref clearly didn’t blow up for it. But it was the same linesman again who ruled the roost. Strangely, Barlaser’s alleged offending arm was his right, the one in line of sight of the ref but on the wrong side for the linesman. Unless the latter also has x-ray vision.
Perhaps Referee Busby was frightened of over-ruling his linesman. Bullying in the work place, maybe?
Pity really, as it soured what was otherwise a good game. Agree with Mr.Bell that Stanley were not at their best. Bit disjointed and young Mr. Gibson was up against their most dangerous player in Taylor and his lack of match experience showed. Thought their midfield generally out played ours but I thought we battled enough for a point that was, frustratingly and perhaps harshly, denied Stanley in the end.
Five points from safety? The battle has begun.
In total agreement with Sir Exile. As for the penalty award, it seemed to me that the linesman (sorry - assistant referee) only raised his flag in response to the shouts from the Charlton fans. I am aure that we will be in trouble (a) for the incident which led to the two dismissals, (b) for the way the Stanley players surrounded the officials after the penalty award, and (c) for the Stanley part in the melee in the tunnel at the end of the game.
I agree with andyd about the friendly locals and stewards - and police. But what an absolutely huge police presence.
And so Joe does this mean that now we move from the Rollercoaster to the Ghost Train !.. where weird and strange happenings wait and suddenly appear around every corner ?. With situations appearing over which we seem to have no control !.
If so then along with JC and JB and the squad we must keep the faith and join the ride ignoring all but the positive things we have noted week in and week out as the season has progressed !.
So .. all together now.. :- ON STANLEY !.. ON TO GREATER THINGS !!.
ps.. Can't wait for the Derby clash, should answer any doubts regarding the future !.
Hi 28. I agree with nearly everything that you have said. But:
Next week is not a distraction, its the FA Cup and we will enjoy it. Just as the Manager, players and staff were defeated yesterday they have earned the right to play Derby County in the next round of the FA Cup. The football season isn't just about where you finish its a bit like life itself......it's about all the games that you play along the way....so cheer up, enjoy next week and support our Stanley!
The F.A. Cup has NEVER been a distraction to a club like ours, Have just read Charltons Manager says he has watched the video a few times, and can see NO reason either player was sent off.
Seems to me the ref completely lost the plot at the end of the match? How can someone be looking Directly at an incident from about 10 feet away, and then take notice of someone on the far side of the pitch and has a restricted view? They cant fine me so that makes Busby a complete Numpty in my view.
Seems to me the ref completely lost the plot at the end of the match? How can someone be looking Directly at an incident from about 10 feet away, and then take notice of someone on the far side of the pitch and has a restricted view? They cant fine me so that makes Busby a complete Numpty in my view.
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I didn't say it was a distraction to the club - I said for me personally.
Would I swap the Ipswich result for 3 points ? I would.
Just how I feel.
If we come out of it with no injuries or suspensions that will help.
Would I swap the Ipswich result for 3 points ? I would.
Just how I feel.
If we come out of it with no injuries or suspensions that will help.
Looking again (it's the masochist in me) at Charlton's disallowed goal, it appears that Taylor is backing into Maxted when he's in the air. So the decision to disallow it seems a good one.
But why Maxted then got sent off is less clear. He does appear to struggle 'energetically' out from under the couple of Charlton players who were lying on top of him. Perhaps they were doing more than just lying on him, who knows? It'll be interesting to see if the club appeal the sending off.
Etimov had a baptism of fire yesterday and I can't help but wonder if, had Maxted stayed on, the penalty, however well taken, might have been saved.
As to the next match, I'm glad, not only because the FA Cup is crucial to a club like Stanley, but also it may allow a bit more time for regrouping before the real fight for league survival resumes.
But why Maxted then got sent off is less clear. He does appear to struggle 'energetically' out from under the couple of Charlton players who were lying on top of him. Perhaps they were doing more than just lying on him, who knows? It'll be interesting to see if the club appeal the sending off.
Etimov had a baptism of fire yesterday and I can't help but wonder if, had Maxted stayed on, the penalty, however well taken, might have been saved.
As to the next match, I'm glad, not only because the FA Cup is crucial to a club like Stanley, but also it may allow a bit more time for regrouping before the real fight for league survival resumes.
I understand that but we’ve a league game 72 hours later with a lot of travelling to do.
The Charlton goal was disallowed as before the corner kick was taken ( take 1) the exact same incident occurred, Taylor fouling Maxted and his Stanley "marker". Referee stopped kick being taken and warned Taylor "no more".
Take 2 of the corner kick there was another foul committed on Jony, but the referee delayed by a couple of seconds blowing for the foul. In this split second the ball was headed in and the melee started; as by this stand, Jony, Taylor and others had all fallen over.
IF the referee had blown as the ball was kicked it is likely the incident IMHO these incidents would have occurred.
Likewise the penalty was given by a assistant referee who around 20 yards away.
I was sat near the tunnel on the opposite to the linesman so same distance away. The only thing I heard was the roar from the crowd.
Yes Gills away on the Tuesday night is a big game, but I'm sure we'll prepare as best we can.
Take 2 of the corner kick there was another foul committed on Jony, but the referee delayed by a couple of seconds blowing for the foul. In this split second the ball was headed in and the melee started; as by this stand, Jony, Taylor and others had all fallen over.
IF the referee had blown as the ball was kicked it is likely the incident IMHO these incidents would have occurred.
Likewise the penalty was given by a assistant referee who around 20 yards away.
I was sat near the tunnel on the opposite to the linesman so same distance away. The only thing I heard was the roar from the crowd.
Yes Gills away on the Tuesday night is a big game, but I'm sure we'll prepare as best we can.
Yes quite a few Charlton fans trying to drag our players,fans, club and his dog through the gutter I empathize a few trying to spoil what was a great day out what happens on the pitch stays on the pitch true Charlton fans were great.
Charlton fan accidentally wiping out one of his team’s players https://buff.ly/2FD0CJm