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The article is spot-on. Accrington and indeed East Lancashire has become the worlds rubbish tip for distressed humans (if you can call them that)!!
I know there are some nice people around, and that not all young ones are brain-dead, but it doesn't tale long to see what a mess the whole area is. Especially when you either live or visit an area that is so much more ....nicer!!
Chaves...such people make life more difficult...and test you to your limits (and beyond). Perhaps I'm just a little bit (or a lot) old fashioned...and believe that society and good manners are something that we should uphold and extend our society to make improvements, in life and in our daily habitat.
Sorry Accy............................I just don't know how it could be changed...and even worse...there is nobody to ask...they've all become CHAVS!!
THOSE WHO THE GODS WOULD DESTROY.....THEY FIRST MAKE MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know there are some nice people around, and that not all young ones are brain-dead, but it doesn't tale long to see what a mess the whole area is. Especially when you either live or visit an area that is so much more ....nicer!!
Chaves...such people make life more difficult...and test you to your limits (and beyond). Perhaps I'm just a little bit (or a lot) old fashioned...and believe that society and good manners are something that we should uphold and extend our society to make improvements, in life and in our daily habitat.
Sorry Accy............................I just don't know how it could be changed...and even worse...there is nobody to ask...they've all become CHAVS!!
THOSE WHO THE GODS WOULD DESTROY.....THEY FIRST MAKE MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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actualy you are spot onDarby said:
take a look around accy center its full of teenage girls with beer bellies walking around or sitting on street corners with their bottle of WKD
ime not that old my self ( ok ime not a teenager) but if girls were like this when i was a teenager i would probably be celibate or gay lol
like i said i am no spring chicken but on a few occasions i have had to go up to my mums house and threaten teenagers because they told my mum to F off when she asked them to stop sitting on her wall drinking booze and smoking drugs
violence dosnt solve anything but will do as a second best because the police never come when you ring them
lol as i type this i looked outside my window only to see a teenage girl throwing up in the street while her chav type boyfriend looks in the air like hes not with her
I suppose that would be morning sickness, would it?
Seriously though, I have to agree with Darby on this. Over the last forty years or so there has been an appalling drop in standards of behaviour and civility. We have all seen it. The main cause is the dreadful standard of education offered in schools. Kids of my generation were not taught how to behave themselves in public, and they in turn have passed that lack of knowledge on to their children who in turn have passed it on to the current generation of school children. Every generation becomes a little more ignorant, rude, obnoxious, selfish and inconsiderate, until you have todays crop of stalwart citizens whose only thought is for themselves. Who believe that the world owes them a living and who will scream and scream and scream until they make themselves sick if they don't get it. Who do not understand that the good things in life come at the cost of hard work.
Blame for the current situation must also be placed fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the capitalist system; "Live now-pay later", Sell eveything you have to buy this product, and the next, and the next, ad infinitum, ad nauseam! Because you are not cool if you don't posess more gadgets and gee-gaws than any sane rational person would know what to do with.
There has got to be something wrong with a society that is willing to pay a pound for a drink of water that is no different from the stuff that comes out of the tap, and all because it is in a cool shaped bottle or some half-witted celebrity has been seen drinking it. There is one from the makers of Lucozade currently being advertised on tv claiming to be more hydrating than water. Do they think we are all stupid? Well, I guess that enough of us must be to make the expenditure of millions on marketing this water profitable.
I am now going to go and repeatedly bang my head against the wall in frustration.
Seriously though, I have to agree with Darby on this. Over the last forty years or so there has been an appalling drop in standards of behaviour and civility. We have all seen it. The main cause is the dreadful standard of education offered in schools. Kids of my generation were not taught how to behave themselves in public, and they in turn have passed that lack of knowledge on to their children who in turn have passed it on to the current generation of school children. Every generation becomes a little more ignorant, rude, obnoxious, selfish and inconsiderate, until you have todays crop of stalwart citizens whose only thought is for themselves. Who believe that the world owes them a living and who will scream and scream and scream until they make themselves sick if they don't get it. Who do not understand that the good things in life come at the cost of hard work.
Blame for the current situation must also be placed fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the capitalist system; "Live now-pay later", Sell eveything you have to buy this product, and the next, and the next, ad infinitum, ad nauseam! Because you are not cool if you don't posess more gadgets and gee-gaws than any sane rational person would know what to do with.
There has got to be something wrong with a society that is willing to pay a pound for a drink of water that is no different from the stuff that comes out of the tap, and all because it is in a cool shaped bottle or some half-witted celebrity has been seen drinking it. There is one from the makers of Lucozade currently being advertised on tv claiming to be more hydrating than water. Do they think we are all stupid? Well, I guess that enough of us must be to make the expenditure of millions on marketing this water profitable.
I am now going to go and repeatedly bang my head against the wall in frustration.
Acrylic-bob said:
Too true A-Bob...
There are a lot of old sayings that have stood the test of time and are now more appropriate than ever.
A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE EASILY PARTED
EASY COME..............EASY GO
YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD OUT OF A STONE
EVERY YEAR THERE ARE MORE FOOLS THAN LAST YEAR
And my favourite:
YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME,
YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME,
BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME!!!
(Although I'm begining to doubt it!!)
My personal favourite is "You can't expect much where there isn't much to start with."
The sad thing is does anyone know what can be done about it?
I've just noticed this afternoon that they also have burberry prams.
I've just noticed this afternoon that they also have burberry prams.
Acrylic-bob said:
Hi A-B...its been a while - hope you are well!
You are spot on saying that people aren't taught how to act in public and that in turn their kids then carry on acting in such an antisocial fashion....however I cant agree that this is because of educational standards in schools. I've seen the job that teachers do in schools and they are excellent professionals carrying out a thankless task faced with uncooperative parents and unbearable legislation. Thirty or even twenty years ago teachers just taught the subjects/curriculum - now they are expected to be surrogate parents basically...or at worst babysitters. Surely the passing on of basic manners and social etiqutte is the domain of the parent...and the lack of parental accountability is the cause of much of what the streets of this country experience on a daily basis. That and the ease of which benefits are made readily available to feckless, workshy morons who aren't fit to look after themselves...nevermind children.
Hey Ceejache, good to see you back here, where have you been?
That sounds like fun - not!
This might be an interesting experiment:
Chantelle Chav is sixteen years old. Currently she lives at home on a council estate with her mother and several siblings. Chantelle is just about to leave school, she has no qualifications and can just about manage to read The Sun (reading age 11.). In a few weeks time she will give birth to her first child. The child will be of mixed race, though Chantelle has ended her relationship with her child's father and now has a new boyfriend, Dean.
Dean is seventeen years old and, like Chantelle, left school without qualifications. He is functionally innumerate and illiterate (Dyslexia). He also lives at home with his parents.
Chantelle and Dean have both been before the courts on several occaisions for minor offences and Dean is currently completing a 100 hour Community Service Order for possesion with intent to supply a class B drug.
Chantelle will have to leave home when her baby is born and she would like to set up a home on her own with Dean. Neither of them have a bank account or savings.
What sort of assistance can they expect from society?
Chantelle Chav is sixteen years old. Currently she lives at home on a council estate with her mother and several siblings. Chantelle is just about to leave school, she has no qualifications and can just about manage to read The Sun (reading age 11.). In a few weeks time she will give birth to her first child. The child will be of mixed race, though Chantelle has ended her relationship with her child's father and now has a new boyfriend, Dean.
Dean is seventeen years old and, like Chantelle, left school without qualifications. He is functionally innumerate and illiterate (Dyslexia). He also lives at home with his parents.
Chantelle and Dean have both been before the courts on several occaisions for minor offences and Dean is currently completing a 100 hour Community Service Order for possesion with intent to supply a class B drug.
Chantelle will have to leave home when her baby is born and she would like to set up a home on her own with Dean. Neither of them have a bank account or savings.
What sort of assistance can they expect from society?
Don't know on that one, but there are some interesting facts and figures here about AccringtonAcrylic-bob said:
http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/areaprofileframes.asp?T=A&AID=175682&TID=13&AREA=accrington
Ceejache said:
I could not agree more. When was parental responsibilty transferred to schools. Why do some of us blame schools for not teaching children about how to live and act around others. It is and always has been a parents responsibility to guide and mould children into decent law abiding citizens, not schools. They can help but cannot be expected to do it all.
I think the problem is due to the ease with which people can live without having to work. No-one who is capable of working should receive money from the state for nothing! Why are we paying people to sit on there backsides all day doing nothing for society? We have town centres and parks ( look at Rhyddings park ) full of litter and neglected by a Council who claim they have no money to keep the place in good condition.
We have a massive DSS paid workforces doing NOTHING. Lets make use of them.
But when Chantelle and Dean [see A-B's last post] have their lil' babby, who will teach the poor mite social responsibility, when it's quite obvious the parents aren't willing to or able. School should not be a stand in parent, but for a whole generation it's the only constant in their lives, and lf they don't learn more thah the 3R's there [hopefully], society is doomed, doomed, DOOMED...........
The sad truth of the matter is that Chantelle and Dean, although fictional characters, are becoming more common. Well, it goes without saying that they are common, but what I really meant was that they are a more frequently occuring phenomenon.