Child Support Agency
- Thread starter Neil
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To be completely bloody useless?
To cause as much stress to parents as humanly possible?
To ignore phone calls or let their microwave answer it?
D) All of the above?
To cause as much stress to parents as humanly possible?
To ignore phone calls or let their microwave answer it?
D) All of the above?
Erm easy bugger all, done nothing will do nothing & see nothing BUT great at draining the taxpayers money for................erm NOTHING!
Still waiting 7+ years on & still received NOTHING! Im a lone parent relying on getting nothing from them either! as by the way violence pays - well avoids all responsibility apparently.
Takes 2 to make a baby only flipping 1 parent to get the wack of responsibilty!! & ive 2 huge responsibilities.
Grrr Neil what a thread sorry in my opinion you will find all government agencies designed to get money for you or entitlements all the flipping same slow rubbish outcome little or nowt BUT they're soon darn fast enough when they want money off you though oo they spring to action!!!!
Still waiting 7+ years on & still received NOTHING! Im a lone parent relying on getting nothing from them either! as by the way violence pays - well avoids all responsibility apparently.
Takes 2 to make a baby only flipping 1 parent to get the wack of responsibilty!! & ive 2 huge responsibilities.
Grrr Neil what a thread sorry in my opinion you will find all government agencies designed to get money for you or entitlements all the flipping same slow rubbish outcome little or nowt BUT they're soon darn fast enough when they want money off you though oo they spring to action!!!!
Neil said:
Isn't the C.S.A's soul purpose to encourage a revengeful ex spouse to financially crucify an absent parent until they wonder if it's worth working at all?
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the purpous is to screw and harrass the fathers who already pay towards their child and get enough money out of them so as not to need bothering to track down absent fathers
the C.S.A will mainly target a father that wants to see his children and contribute yet will not bother persuing a father who simply dosnt want to know
shoulda stuck to using the courts it was a much fairer system and fathers who refused to pay went to jail
the C.S.A will mainly target a father that wants to see his children and contribute yet will not bother persuing a father who simply dosnt want to know
shoulda stuck to using the courts it was a much fairer system and fathers who refused to pay went to jail
chav1 said:
agree completely with you. My dad has two other children and as gone through hell with this so called system. He pays or payed a good amount a month to my half brother and sisiter and now because he fell out with their mum she as decided to go back through the csa and he mite as well not work now cause they are tring to take every penny near enough that he earns and she will not get all that. A real selfish underneath b...h she is.
I am with Chav on this. They have made my life hell for years and if I was to just have a basic wage I am allowed my rent and money to live on. Idont get allowance for poll tax at all. At present I have to declare any pay rises over time bonuses etc to be reassessed approx time to do that 6 MONTHS by which time I have arrears and have to resubmit as I have no O/T etc. I am also on the 25% deduction with the end result if I play by their rules I am worse of than an unemployed person if I dont I risk the dinging me for more money.
I am fed up of the whole carryon I pay for my daughter yet others get away scot free. As its a govenment agency it is easier to make thew figures look good harrasing those that do pay. As for those that dont I pay twice as its my tax the govenment is spending to chase them and support their kids.
I am fed up of the whole carryon I pay for my daughter yet others get away scot free. As its a govenment agency it is easier to make thew figures look good harrasing those that do pay. As for those that dont I pay twice as its my tax the govenment is spending to chase them and support their kids.
another aspect of what the C.S.A does
well you could say kills fathers and in some cases it kills children
quite a few fathers have taken their children and killed them along with themselves and to be honest although it is a terrible thing to do i can see how much distress and anguish the CSA can cause somone that it would drive them to suicide and desperation etc
well you could say kills fathers and in some cases it kills children
quite a few fathers have taken their children and killed them along with themselves and to be honest although it is a terrible thing to do i can see how much distress and anguish the CSA can cause somone that it would drive them to suicide and desperation etc
When we live in a world filled with political correctness, and supposed sexual equality, the law regarding children's welfare, following seperation or divorce, is clearly weighted more towards the mother.
In theory the CSA was a good idea, in as much as absent parents of either sex should contribute to the upkeep of their children. Clearly it hasn't, and isn't working, and the whole thing should be scrapped.
If I was a parent denied access to see my child, because of the vindictiveness of a former partner, who had the law totally on their side, I'm afraid you'd also see me in tights scaling Buckingham Palace, dressed as Batman.
In theory the CSA was a good idea, in as much as absent parents of either sex should contribute to the upkeep of their children. Clearly it hasn't, and isn't working, and the whole thing should be scrapped.
If I was a parent denied access to see my child, because of the vindictiveness of a former partner, who had the law totally on their side, I'm afraid you'd also see me in tights scaling Buckingham Palace, dressed as Batman.
garinda said:
its silly bitches like this that cost the tax payer millions upon millions in legal aid just so that they can use the courts to carry out personal vendettas against fathers who are in some cases much better parents than the mother ever could hope to be
Yes in theory the CSA was a good idea but its as well run as most govenment departments. A lot of people think that is the mother and child that suffer yet I am financially worse of than my ex who works full time gets working tax credit family allowence and my contribution. She can run a car and afford a morgage I cannot yet I am still considered a bad guy. I have never shirked my responsibility of financial support so why if my circumstances change do I always feel I am in the wrong. The set up is so buracratic its beyond belief to the extent I turned a payrise down in October because of the hassle it is with them.
Even if the split is amicable and there is no initial contact for payments through the CSA as soon as the parent with the child applies for say WTC then they become involved wether the parents like it or not. It is still split between the old and new rules (me I am under the old rules) and the easiest way to get off the old rules to the new is have another child and be 5% better off and thats the advice they give.
Some fathers will be pushed over the edge and people seem indiferent so maybe they should try it for a year and see how they feel.
Even if the split is amicable and there is no initial contact for payments through the CSA as soon as the parent with the child applies for say WTC then they become involved wether the parents like it or not. It is still split between the old and new rules (me I am under the old rules) and the easiest way to get off the old rules to the new is have another child and be 5% better off and thats the advice they give.
Some fathers will be pushed over the edge and people seem indiferent so maybe they should try it for a year and see how they feel.
Personally, I think that the whole farcical system is a national disgrace. I think that it is about time that someone called a halt to this shameless waste of public money. I also think that the law on custody and divorce should be subject to serious and wide-ranging review.
What if the do get rid of the CSA what then? It was there for the kids and though it is failing some do benifit. Could the answer being tightening the law and giving them the legal right to chase non payers as criminals? I hate the whole setup but then I am paying and would without them being there but some would stop paying as soon as it became defunct.
chav1 said:
Excuse me not all of us are using silly bitches may i add yeh i agree there are a lot of so called parents [not im not being genderist] that use children as weapons of money & control, im on enough specific forums to know its not a gender issue just to put the complete record straight !! The trouble is the issue is always with 'the other parent' when do kids themselves decide? where's children for justice?
But unfortunately its the kids lose out to one parents selfishness, be it mother be it father.
Acrylic-bob said:
Well theres 2 options they have been looking at, csa being transferred to DWP dept to widen the options of obtaining payments via various methods using the systems in place thus putting more strain on DWP; & theres debt collector style chasing up non payers. Which ever way not sure whether it would work or not.
SPUGGIE J said:
I appreciate we all suffer those that pay & those that dont get bugger all, the one thing we have in common with csa is the fact at either end your stung but its those that flout the system & pay nothing towards their kids upkeep that grinds me & must grind you too - nevermind tax payers too.
Your daughter is one of the lucky few that have parents that put them first & its the way it should be but unfortunately many children dont have that & are fortunate to have one parent put them 1st.
accymel said:
i did say "silly bitches like this" which dosnt cover all women
from my oldest childs case i can say that they will listen to a child at age 5 but even then if the child decides it wants to live with daddy it is still very difficult
as the law is set out now a woman can have an affair , pack up and leave , take the kids and the father can be messed around that much by the mother not attending court , false accusations towards the father and generaly been a bitch it can be years before they ever see their children again
i have a friend who has not seen his daughter for 3 years because the courts simply fail to force the mother to sort somthing out , even if teh mother breaks an order enforced by the courts it is very rare that the mother is puinished as the punishment is jail and teh courts are very reluctant to jail a mother , what shoudl happen is the mother should be thrown in jail and full custordy given to the father
when it comes to children the whole system is a joke , a prostitue addicted to drugs who neglects her child will be given help and preference over a father who works and has a healthy lifestyle
yes some women do need to use the court system for various genuine reasons but the system is so open to abuse by the mother it is ridiculous