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Opppss did you live on India street in the 1970s Darby if you did sorry for the noise and stuff for some unknown reason we liked to hang out on the swings there it was known back then as the triangle..we could get served cider at that selling out shop and we used to for reasons better known to ourselfs fight the irish but only after we had drink the cider lol they were a tough lot back then..perhaps they still are LOL..Linda
 
Forgot a few there Linda.What about the 2 Irish brothers, one called Bulldog,Lynda your mat and Julie not to mention the Browns that lived on Leyland street.Memory lane or what
 
Pheonixx said:
Opppss did you live on India street in the 1970s Darby if you did sorry for the noise and stuff for some unknown reason we liked to hang out on the swings there it was known back then as the triangle..we could get served cider at that selling out shop and we used to for reasons better known to ourselfs fight the irish but only after we had drink the cider lol they were a tough lot back then..perhaps they still are LOL..Linda

You're OK ....I left India St. in 1960/61 and moved to the more select neighbourhood of Dill Hall. I lived at No. 31 right next to the selling-out shop. We didn't have swings on the tri-angle either...just dog s**t and grass.
 
Hello everyone i used to live in the hardware shop next to the butchers nellie and harry ran that shop 1966 to 1970 all i can remember is the coal dep and the canal being covered with oil.I used to go down church streetn singing knock thee times onthe celling at 7 o clock in the morning with a girl can rememberhere name.iI was only 4 at the time.
 
Old view of Church

Here's a very old view before our times, but you will recognise something I am sure!
 

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That is a brilliant photograph Atarah. Any idea when it was taken?

Of course I recognise the building on the right but not much else. All those different sizes and shapes of buildings explain why there is such a variety of bricked up windows and doors in the wall along there.

I'd still love to know what the double arched window along therewas part of. Any ideas?

I'm trying to work out where it is in comparison to this photo.

Looking back on these old photos makes me realise how much character we've lost. Market Street looks very narrow.
 
That piccy is brilliant, Atarah...........dare I ask, any more like it?

The picture was taken some time after 1901, because that is when the traway was electrified (fom the mid-1880's until then coal powered trams ran this route). We can see its's electrified from the overhead power lines. In addition, it was taken before 1911 when the council offces at Church were built (the date stone is still on the site...Im pretty sure it's 1911, from memory.)

The next question is...is it before or after 1907? That is the year in which the trams were extended up to Ossy. If we could see the lines swinging to the left, we could say it's post 1907...but we can't. So does this make it pre-1907? Not neccessarily so....the problem lies in the angle of the camera. While we can see the warehouse immeadiatly to the right, we can't really judge how far back the Commercial is extending, which raises a question mark about the identity of the street on the left. If that is Market street, then we know that it is pre-1907; if it is not Market street, but is in fact a back street to Market Street, then we are still uncertain because we cannot see the aerations made to Market Street, namely the curvingof the buildings to allow the Trams to go round.

The other fasinating point about this picture is the sign above the large lamp to the left.. -"Telephones". Was this a mobile phone shop for Church in 1907? Obviously not, but it may well have been the post office, not that many yards from where it is currently located.
 
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Cazzer, didn't one of the Capsticks open a posh hairdressers in Accy in the 60s? I seem to remember going there, it was a lot more expensive than Maison Dorothea - but it wasn't a bad hairdo. With Dorothea, it seemed that whatever you asked her to do, you always came out looking the same! Anybody else out there have their first perm from Dorothea (no, not you Tealeaf!). She was in Market Street, but then moved round to Blackburn Road, next to the woolshop (or was it the other way round?)
 
Thanks for all that info on the photo Tealeaf, thats what you call "putting flesh on the bones"

Hope this one inspires you as well
 

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Cheers Atarah...the second photo confirms the date of the first now as being between 1901 and 1906/7 because we now know the street on the left is Market Street. The second piccy, is of course of Market Street, looking from Church towards Ossy. We can be much more specific about the date of this picture because we can see hoarding on the left (previously the site of the telephone shop with the lamp). The hoarding, of course, is there as alteratons are made to curve the building for trams to go round, and we know the tramlines from Church to Ossy werel aid in 1906/7.

Just going back to the first piccy, though....can anyone spot the pub? Not to difficult really...it's the Navigation Arms and it's the building with the bloke stood outside, just on the right hand side of the piccy. Als, no longer with us.
 
Going back to the forties our family doctors surgery was under the traffic lights at church facing what was the thenthe churchcouncil offices facing the other side a row of shops and the bus stop to accrington The doctors name I think was pare and our family stayed patients till he died
 
Navigation Arms named after the canal I presume? Could that have been the building with the double arched windows? I can't see too clearly on the photograph I'm afraid.
 
keith said:
Going back to the forties our family doctors surgery was under the traffic lights at church facing what was the thenthe churchcouncil offices facing the other side a row of shops and the bus stop to accrington The doctors name I think was pare and our family stayed patients till he died

Correct Keith, you still have a good memory!

I also use to go to see Dr. Pear...his practice was taken over by Dr. Tuxford sometime in the mid to late 50's. The Bank was on the opposite side of Blackburn road to the doctors surgery.
 
There was another Bank in Market Street, by the bus stop, opposite the Post Office. I worked there.It was great fun. The cellar was liable to flooding and we constantly had to have a pump running to keep the water out. Once or twice it failed and we'd be down there paddling about knee deep in water! We used to have to keep things above a certain level to make sure they would stay dry.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
There was another Bank in Market Street, by the bus stop, opposite the Post Office. I worked there.It was great fun. The cellar was liable to flooding and we constantly had to have a pump running to keep the water out. Once or twice it failed and we'd be down there paddling about knee deep in water! We used to have to keep things above a certain level to make sure they would stay dry.

Didn't that become a Building Society branch office later?? Halifax or something??

It was just up from the bus stop if I remember rightly!

Willow...I didn't know Cellar Paddling was great fun?
 
I'm not sure about that because I transferred to another branch and never went back there. It's been demolished since and is now the site of "Alleytroyds" I don't know if they still get the same stink from Blythes that we used to get in the Bank (or when the wind was in the opposite direction a nice aroma of bone boiling from the glue factory) The chrome fittings on the front door were very pitted too which made you wonder what on earth was in the air.

The demise of the Bank came with the closure of places like Rothwells which used to supply half of our custom.

Ah those were the days, butties at dinner time from Carley's - "built" to specification with as much mustard as you could handle.

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Willow...I didn't know Cellar Paddling was great fun?
Not in the smelly water we got down there it wasn't !!:D
 
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Hi, tried here to show you the Navigation Arms, well, I think it is. Wont be too clear, but might help you to decipher which building Tealeaf meant. Atarah :)
 

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Darby said:
Correct Keith, you still have a good memory!

I also use to go to see Dr. Pear...his practice was taken over by Dr. Tuxford sometime in the mid to late 50's. The Bank was on the opposite side of Blackburn road to the doctors surgery.
Dr Pear delivered about half of the inhabitants in Church before he retired. He could be seen at Old Trafford, in his Panama hat, at every major match, so goodness knows how he found the time.

Keith Tuxford took over from him, as Darby says. They all seemed to be one-man practices in those days. Anyone remember that awful old gas ring with the pan with the rubber tubing and needles boiling in it? - smelt awful, but was probably (hopefully) sterile! In those days, nobody got MRSA (never even heard of it then). Perhaps we should go back to our old sterilisers with the Cheatles forceps, Lettie? - probably before your time!
 
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