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I agree that it is perhaps time for a change in the management team as what expereince has coleman and bell got in management at this level, 12 months at stanley in the conferencance and also it could have gone stale and also a few of the squad have come through with stanley from the unibond. With regards changing the managment i know i few people who have been watching stanley for quite a few years would agree with me.
 
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I am not going to critisise the players neither am i going to heap prais on them i believe that it will turn around!!! our luck has benn awfull so far this season but that will change I now firmly believe that the 4-5-1 formation is not right. but that is what coleman thinks is best for the club and he is doing his best to help the club why would he suddenly turn against the club
 
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rishton said:
I agree that it is perhaps time for a change in the management team as what expereince has coleman and bell got in management at this level, 12 months at stanley in the conferencance and also it could have gone stale and also a few of the squad have come through with stanley from the unibond. With regards changing the managment i know i few people who have been watching stanley for quite a few years would agree with me.
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Well, that was an abismal performance by Stanley. No way we had 90% possession. Leigh said in the Observer that they had nothing to fear and they were right. Two soft goals......never. They were well taken and one was a penalty, so it could`nt be soft. Fair play to the bloke with the bandaged head, I winced every time he made a header, but he had passion and committment for a win. Only Jonathan Smith looked anything like a player with a bit of fire.
With most of the players returning from the previous season, the problem seems to lie with
A The manager and his tactics
B Cooky and his training
Can`t wait to read Cav`s coloumn in next weeks Observer to see how all the lads are dissapointed with the result.
 
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How about getting behind the team and stop bloody slagging them off...

I'm sure some of you on here don't support this club, I heard some idiots in the crowd yesterdat calling for Coley's head and that is a load of RUBBISH, like some of you on here are doing the same.

If you dont think that Coley and Jimmy can take us any further then keep it to yourselves because its not appreciated by real supporters who have every faith in the management team and believe they can take us all the way.
 
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Been behind the team since 1977,seen some real rubbish defeats and still turn up every week. Hav`nt asked for anyones head, but this is a forum for peoples opinions however much yuo disagree with them. Maybe the last two years success has heightened expectations too much, but really and truthfully yesterday I thought we were bloody rubbish.
Oh and as I was leaving I overheard some young lads chatting. They had been to the last couple of matches, not seen a win and wer`nt going to bother coming again.....that potential fans and revenue lost and difficult to entice back. They`ll probably go off to watch Rovers!!!
 
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The system we are playing is just not working. We haven't scored for three games and don't look like scoring again on yesterday's performance. I think the influence Paul Cook has is having a negative effect. Crainey was through on goal yesterday but Cooky was screaming for the ball, Crainey thought better of shooting and passed it to Cook who messed it up. In pre-season friendlies and at the start of the season Crainey was shooting on sight, a real breath of fresh air, now he doesn't. Why ? Is it the change of style ? I think it is time to bring in new faces and face up to the truth that half the team are not good enough to play at this level. Some of you seem to think that "it will be alright" IT WON'T. Time for you all to get realistic and see what is happening. WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Where are the goals going to come from. Did we have a shot on target yesterday ? The performance was a disgrace. The players should be ashamed of themselves. No cup run this year. No live television. No cup income, and probably NO ROOF. Stop kidding yourselves and defending the performances.
 
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now now denise john isnt that bad, a few results going against him give him at least to the end of the season and then make your decision
 
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However you look at it Mick, the two goals yesterday were soft goals. One was a virtually free header, while the other was a defensive shambles leading to the penalty. Any team worth their salt should be able to deal with a long punt down the middle, afterall, the opposition seem to deal with our mindless punts week in/week out.

I'm not calling for the management's heads, but they must accept some of the blame for our present predicament. For example, when we got rid of Calcutt and Rory hobbled off in the pre-season game against Burnley, was there any effort made to sign another wide player? Seems very short sighted if there wasn't, afterall we have no width at all at the moment!!!

I don't think I had unrealistic expectations at the beginning of the season. I don't suppose anyone remembers the thread we had going during the Summer where people predicted this season's finishing position. If I remember correctly I was the only one who predicted a middle of the table position, which is a long way from being unrealistic. And yet I feel very disappointed with the way things have transpired over the course of 2004, with only 12 victories from 43 proper competitive games. If there were signs of things improving then fair enough, but if anything we seem to be going backwards.

Like Mick, I've been watching Stanley for a long time (this is my 27th season) and during that time I've seen some rubbish, as well as the truly excellent. However, after years of seeing us going forward it pains me to see us come so far, only to see us stagnate and decline at such an important stage.

Perhaps it's time for individuals to be realistic and hold their hands up? I know it's not going to be popular with the 'rose-tinted spectacles brigade', but perhaps it's time for changes to be made, before the slope becomes too slippery for recovery?
 
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Firstly, there are a few posters who only seem to come on this website when things go WRONG (Denise????) i tend to stay off this website after a defeat just because of the "SACK COLEY" posts.

Coley is a legend & needs more than 18 months in the conference for us to get it right. Remember, teams in the confernce have been full time for ages & have had several attempts. We have no divine right to go up just because we all want it to happen.

That said....

Yesterday was DISGUSTING for all concerned. No width, no fight, no passion, no commitment (Mully & Smiffy apart) The was a different speed for 5 mins after they scored but why? Why, don't we storm out at they away team. Why doen't anybody apart from Craney run past Mullers, Why no pace from anybody, why 1 striker against Leigh RMI, why Rocky can't past to a team mate anymore, why Cookie on left wing? Why can we play 20 passes & get nowhere. Coley's not at fault directly because he's currently got a better squad than last year but there are too many centre midfielders (Jaggers, Cook, Brennan, Craney, Williams?) & not enough strikers & full backs.

Positives from yesterday Haworth, Smithy & Mullin - also things may change....

BUT everybody talk about the football not just post sly digs at the management team, a post that reads "Coley is crap, sack him brings nothing to the table.

Coley is the only reason we are here now, & one league is the same as another. He knows what it takes to win the Unibond 1 & Premier then he also will learn what is needed to win the conference.... I'll start John by saying a left back & a sriker to play alongside Mullers. Roscoe from Leigh RMI will do for a start.....

Keeping the faith, Just!

ulltras
 
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We were poor against Leigh, and we have been leaking points badly recently, but sacking John Coleman? :eek: I thinks that's ridiculous.
We need to get behind him and the boys and encourage them and give them all the support we can.
Come on, lets all enjoy and celebrate after the Oldham game on Tuesday. :D

Dave :)
 
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Although very dissappointed with the result yesterday, I felt sorry for the lads - Coley & Jimmy were shouting different instructions from the dugout & Paul Cook was shouting his own set of instructions on the pitch - no wonder they were all at sea, they didn't know which one to listen to!! Also, talking to one or two of them after the game they were just as gutted, if not more so, than the fans. Personally I think things will improve but Coley may have to have the grace to climb down from his 'this 4.5.1. formation will work' theory & admit he may be wrong sometimes.
How Paul Cook got man of the match yesterday, I don't know - in my mind it could only have gone to either Smithy or Paul Howarth.
 
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That was awfull!!!

Cooky got man of the match!!! obvioulsy who ever deiceded that wasnt watching the game!!

I Think that Paul Mullin should have a word to the manager about this 4-5-1 because it isnt working for him or stanley. Cooky should not be starting games because for a start he didnt start many last season and hes got worse this.

Also i think we should get a sign made Saying

4-4-2 another one for the ultras to think about...

But saying all that i am still 100% behind coley and jimmy for now anyway!!!!
 
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yeah i totally agree with jase we had a brilliant start and we start losing a couple of games and people look at the management and say SACK COLEY well no

i was talking to shaun tuck after the game and he were saying that if we lose it is all his fault

coley puts in no less than 110%

CMON LETS KICK START AGAINST OLDHAM AND GET BEHIND THE TEAM NOT ASK FOR THERE HEADS TO BE CHOPPED
 
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Yeah totally agree with jase and baldy i just wish more real fans would come on here and show the players and managment what we really feal about them!!!
 
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A word to Mr `Smiffy 16`. I , and I am sure others, will not be keeping our views to ourselves as you wish us to do. The encouragement of discussion is a prime aim of this forum as stated by the moderator. As my criticism was neither silly or stupid it was totally legitimate. My advice to you is to go and goose-step elsewhere! Your statement regarding this in your posting was belligerent and well out of order. I am surprised the moderator hasn't had a word with you already regarding the matter.
 
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A word to Mr `Smiffy 16`. I , and I am sure others, will not be keeping our views to ourselves as you wish us to do. The encouragement of discussion is a prime aim of this forum as stated by the moderator. As my criticism was neither silly or stupid it was totally legitimate. My advice to you is to go and goose-step elsewhere! Your statement regarding this in your posting was belligerent and well out of order. I am surprised the moderator hasn't had a word with you already regarding the matter.
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