Coleman

One more thing (as Colombo would say) - there's been no approach from Rochdale about taking Coley, so how compensation figures are being bandied around I have no idea...

Your chairman is either dishonest, or you dont have the right contacts. It's a fact Dale and Coleman HAVE been in talks. That would not happen without compo being agreed, surely you agree on that. Dale would not go behind Accy's board and put themselves at risk of breaching FL rules. You can refute that compo has been agreed at around £70K between the 2 clubs, time will tell.
 
these rochdale fan's know alot of stuff about our little club, we get more information of them than we do from the club get them signed up to update oursite
 
Its like the proccy move - its a case of believe it when i see it, many a clubs been after coley since 2006 offering the earth, thing is Dale our manager has a lot of input with our club doubt dale would give him the clout to rise above team management????? if so then think possible consideration to go is strong.
 
My word we have some village idiots on here.

Anyway...

The only official source available - our club's statement -informs us that Stanley have had no approach from Rochdale. Anything aside from that at this point is hearsay. We have had no update since the statement.

So, going from the official source, rather than hearsay, it would suggest that no deal has been agreed or even put forward or even whispered.

I'm going to take the old KIPAX stance of, "until it's on the official site, it hasn't happened".

Keep the faith.
 
Ok. And I certainly haven't come on a wind up mission. More to share/find out info.

Ok will take that in good faith & in all seriousness, so Rochdale ... what do you want to know? Im sure we'll answer em, tho it appears you may know more than we do, but we'll give it a bash:alright:

Take it away...... dale q's please:D:D:D:D:D
 
That kind of speaks volumes, unless they have taken the odds off to update them.
As Dalenumber2 has already said, I also wish you all the best for the season, I actually admire what Accy have done in recent years on what is a limited budget.

Oh, btw, I will follow etiquette here, I am a Rochdale fan, Hello.

Hello & welcome:D, thank you, yes i think even stanley fans are amazed how well we have done & how far on a very very very tight budget, i dont know how he does it - i have asked but not been fully enlightened:D
 
Wish I could start again. About 30 years ago. With a different club.


Why is that? would of thought things were going good at dale, recent promotion? Its damn hard work coming thro the leagues on very little especially with the big money boys around, bring back old divisions eh?

Its hard life a stanley fan battling in the big footy pond & the smallest:)
 
Hello! I'm Brierls and I'm a Dale fan. Will Cilla be along shortly to start the questioning?

No surprises that I've registered to talk about Coleman. I don't suppose I'm going to add anything that you don't already know, or perhaps want to hear, but wanted ask a few questions.

Like the Dale fans above have posted, there are very strong 'noises' from usually reliable sources that Coleman is to take over at Dale early next week. I've tried not to get carried away with the rumours, for fear of being let down if Coleman doesn't take over (we desperately need a man of his calibre in charge!) but events over the last few days aren't doing anything to dispel the rumours. I don't trust the 'Sky Sports understands...' stories, but the people feeding the info on this occasion are usually spot on. Coleman's lack of denial about the Dale job, despite having several opportunities to do so, should be ringing alarm bells and now the bookies look to have suspended betting on the 'Next Rochdale Manager' market. It all points to one thing.

So, onto my question(s)...there can be little doubt that Coleman has done a fantastic job at Accy. He's pretty much done for Accy what Hill did for Dale. The thing is with Hill, it wasn't just Hill that was responsible for the success, it was Hill and Flitcroft. They were seen as equal partners at Dale, and now its the same at Barnsley. Is it the same with Coleman and Bell? Or is Coleman very much the main man with Bell as his trusty assistant? IF Coleman did come to Dale, would you expect Bell to follow?

Cheers.
 
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Coleman's lack of denial about the Dale job, despite having several opportunities to do so

The 49-year-old remains committed to Stanley and is keen to stay fully focused on tomorrow’s League Two match at Aldershot, but was non-committal when asked about the Rochdale links yesterday.
“Well I’ve got a job here, haven’t I?” Coleman said, when asked whether he would be interested in the job. “It’s hypothetical. For one they’ve got a caretaker in place and two I’m manager of Accrington.
“There’s been no contact with the clubs as far as I can gather from our club so it’s pointless thinking about it.
“All I can concentrate on is trying to win on Saturday.”


Good luck when you get relegated this year :alright:
 
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Football league show tonight opening headlines Manish Bhasin stated that coleman had turned down Rochdale and commited to Stanley, so as others have said until something changes and it,s in black and white I am quite unconcerned, but may i suggest the Dale fans on here don,t get to excited as I feel you may come down to earth with a bump, I think Rochdale may be better of concentrating their energy elsewhere in the hunt for a new manager.

PS there is a man at Blackburn who might be right up your street, he could have ya playing conference football in the blink of an eye.
 
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To all the Rochdale fans coming on here; and doing what has quite rightly been quoted as "spouting" ......

If you want to discuss Rumour...Conjecture..Conspiracy theories, blah, blah,blah....I'm sure you've got you're own forums to post your comments on....

Bradford fan's came spouting the same garbage...........and disappeared without comment....They couldn't afford Coley & Bell.....They were ( and probably still are ) a much bigger club than Rochdale ( and Stanley ) will ever hope to be...

If I was Coleman ( which obviously I'm not) I would be asking myself a few questions which he's probably asked himself before (with interest from much bigger clubs than Rochdale )...Assuming of course the compensation can be paid........


1) Can I seriously improve myself and enhance my reputation as a manager by moving from Stanley or to another club (for another club, substitute that for Rochdale, or any other club for that matter ) with the offer that is on the table now?????

2) Can I seriously repeat the same successes that I have had during twelve successful years at Stanley with my new club??? Thus enhancing my reputation as a sought after manager??????????

3) Do my (potential) new employers have the resources to help me with my longer term goal ( i.e. enhance my own stock as a football manager )???????

4) If I make a mistake taking another job which does not work out , where does that leave my career????

Personally, I think Coleman choosing Rochdale would be a disaster....He'd be taking a gamble with a club that's already a bookies favourite ( and for that fact, any realistic football fans favourite) to achieve relegation from League 1.....

If he keeps them up, he'd be doing the same next season at Rochdale...fighting to keep an unfashionable team in a league that they don't have the resources to stay in......If they go down......big BLACK mark on Coley's so far impeccable C.V. !!!

Compare that to staying at Stanley..... Getting us to the play offs again hopefully (or with a good run of form it could even be better!! )

As clubs, There's only a difference of about 500 -600 fans !!! Rochdale may have the extra 500-600, but ambition wise we're way in front of that lot.


Neither Accy or Rochdale will win the Premier League....But I hope, IF Illyas reads this...IF we're an ambitious club.....back the man....back Coley (AND Bell )!!!!

Give Coley and Bell another improved contract !!! If only for another 12 months (extending what they've already got) and giving the two of them better terms !! Make it even harder or (even more expensive) for anyone else to take the dynamic duo away !!!! Where would we get two better men??????

If only we'd give Coley a little money to spend...We've spent sod all in years.....Give Coley £100k to spend....... It might get us to League 1....I'm sure it won't be wasted!!!
 
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I came on here to see what was being said at the Accy end of things, and to share information.

You know what's being said at "the Accy end of things" - the club has made an official statement.

"To share information" - do you mean to "to share rumour"? If so, are you not disappointed by now? We have no rumour to share - it all comes from Rochdale.

If John Coleman goes, then he goes. Good luck to him. He has done a remarkable job at Stanley as we all know. But he is not indispensable. Yes, he will be a very hard act to follow - but there will be someone out there who will succeed him.

In the meantime, may I suggest to all Dale fans that you abandon your fruitless search for rumour and gossip, your reliance on media people supposedly in the know and your endless quotation of betting odds.
 
To all the Rochdale fans coming on here; and doing what has quite rightly been quoted as "spouting" ......

If you want to discuss Rumour...Conjecture..Conspiracy theories, blah, blah,blah....I'm sure you've got you're own forums to post your comments on....

Bradford fan's came spouting the same garbage...........and disappeared without comment....They couldn't afford Coley & Bell.....They were ( and probably still are ) a much bigger club than Rochdale ( and Stanley ) will ever hope to be...

If I was Coleman ( which obviously I'm not) I would be asking myself a few questions which he's probably asked himself before (with interest from much bigger clubs than Rochdale )...Assuming of course the compensation can be paid........


1) Can I seriously improve myself and enhance my reputation as a manager by moving from Stanley or to another club (for another club, substitute that for Rochdale, or any other club for that matter ) with the offer that is on the table now?????

2) Can I seriously repeat the same successes that I have had during twelve successful years at Stanley with my new club??? Thus enhancing my reputation as a sought after manager??????????

3) Do my (potential) new employers have the resources to help me with my longer term goal ( i.e. enhance my own stock as a football manager )???????

4) If I make a mistake taking another job which does not work out , where does that leave my career????

Personally, I think Coleman choosing Rochdale would be a disaster....He'd be taking a gamble with a club that's already a bookies favourite ( and for that fact, any realistic football fans favourite) to achieve relegation from League 1.....

If he keeps them up, he'd be doing the same next season at Rochdale...fighting to keep an unfashionable team in a league that they don't have the resources to stay in......If they go down......big BLACK mark on Coley's so far impeccable C.V. !!!

Compare that to staying at Stanley..... Getting us to the play offs again hopefully (or with a good run of form it could even be better!! )

As clubs, There's only a difference of about 500 -600 fans !!! Rochdale may have the extra 500-600, but ambition wise we're way in front of that lot.


Neither Accy or Rochdale will win the Premier League....But I hope, IF Illyas reads this...IF we're an ambitious club.....back the man....back Coley (AND Bell )!!!!

Give Coley and Bell another improved contract !!! If only for another 12 months (extending what they've already got) and giving the two of them better terms !! Make it even harder or (even more expensive) for anyone else to take the dynamic duo away !!!! Where would we get two better men??????

If only we'd give Coley a little money to spend...We've spent sod all in years.....Give Coley £100k to spend....... It might get us to League 1....I'm sure it won't be wasted!!!

Thank you, an excellent post:alright: in fact tried looking last night & the bradford wanting coley thread ended up being deleted such as the verosity of the visiting fans, i will have to have an ettiquette rule page for visiting fans from other clubs its not a standard footy forum where anything goes as of likes of free forums.
 
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But to be honest, Dale fans haven't done much wrong on this thread. In fact the warning given for swearing was because of posts from Accrington fans.

Maybe aim an etiquette rule page for all football fans rather than those from other teams.
 
that have now been suspended :(

To be fair I wouldn't take too much notice of this - with such a small market as "Next Rochdale Manager" it'll be a case of too much money has been put on Coley due to the comments of Rochdale's "right 99% of the time" reporter and so they will close it because the bets aren't being spread to cover any payouts.
 
But to be honest, Dale fans haven't done much wrong on this thread. In fact the warning given for swearing was because of posts from Accrington fans.

Maybe aim an etiquette rule page for all football fans rather than those from other teams.

Give me chance, im working on it, problem with these sort of threads get out of hand too quickly, im sure if stanley fans came on your board mob handed then the sharp shrift would apply also:rolleyes::confused:

I dont go on other footy team boards they are territorial rightfully:D

Now ....can we get back to the topic of discussion [im now bending over backwards] are we discussing rumour, fact or just want a low down of coleman?
 
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