"our boys deserve no credit for that game" ? what is he on about? walsall are the leagues runaway leaders, accrington have just been promoted, an accy battered them in the first half, and played well on the day. coleman doesnt engage his brain before he speaks and ends up sounding like a child. he did the same after the watford game. also why play todd upfront?? Brown and mangan must be wondering what they have to do to get a game.
Colemans comments?
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I thought that stanley were very unlucky not to come away with at least 1 point. It was abit harsh by coleman. Where did he say that
that was quoted in the sunday mirror, he comes accross as an absolute idiot in interviews, he should just say nothing, if all he has got is criticism
He is the manager. Part of his job is to talk to the press. He says what he feels. he probably hasn't got time to come on here first and OK them with you.
Why don't you practice what you preach and say nothing if all you have is critisism? or does it only Apply to John Coleman?
Why don't you practice what you preach and say nothing if all you have is critisism? or does it only Apply to John Coleman?
Someone said:
If it was constructive criticism, fine. However saying after the match to local press that he could've gone on the pitch and done a better job, and that four of our players carried the other seven is totally unfair and frankly, wrong.
We had 58% of the posession, Walsall had three attempts on target, we had eight attempts on target. Losing was not unlucky. We should have made our posession count, we shouldn't have defended badly to conced two out of three attempts, and we should have scored more than one with eight on target. Instead of unlucky I would say bad defending and bad finishing. I agree with Mr. Coleman.
Yup i agree with you Jeff, the finishing was poor at one stage the ball was pratically at the net 3 times on the trot & still wasn't put in, we got all panicy which make our defence but importantly our attack very shakey & reaction ball kicks were played rather than passing which ball was given away too easily & too many high balls at times which too many heads for one ball rather than targeting key headers to knock it into goal or play. We can pass the ball surperbly as proven in previous games & was missed a little during last game. I think as much as Coley had honest critism to the press lets hope he puts that into correctness on the training ground
We can do it & deserve to be in lines of top table maybe the beleif wasn't there against wallsall
We can do it & deserve to be in lines of top table maybe the beleif wasn't there against wallsall
Coley's post match comments are on the BBC Radio Lancashire site here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/content/articles/2006/08/15/acc_audio_archive_0607.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/content/articles/2006/08/15/acc_audio_archive_0607.shtml
I've got no problem with Coley blasting the players whether we think it is right or not. He knows how to get the best out of his players and we should stay out of it.
But I do think he could stay away from ridicule " i know Walsall weren't better than us, and I know they aren't better than us" So we are a better team than Walsall? Tables don't lie and Walsall don't conced silly soft goals all the time. Other clubs dont need a reason to have a go at us and I think that statements like that will encourage the trolls. Hey ho, time to batten down the hatches cos we are gonna start flak like we did in the Conference.
IMHO.
But I do think he could stay away from ridicule " i know Walsall weren't better than us, and I know they aren't better than us" So we are a better team than Walsall? Tables don't lie and Walsall don't conced silly soft goals all the time. Other clubs dont need a reason to have a go at us and I think that statements like that will encourage the trolls. Hey ho, time to batten down the hatches cos we are gonna start flak like we did in the Conference.
IMHO.
I was at the same match as John Coleman and I agree with his post match comments to Radio Lancashire. The dream pairing of Welch and Edwards did not work as well as I expected (and only a week before on the Fans Panel I had been asking why they had not played together this season). Walsall bullied us in the second half and we conspired to give them two soft goals thanks to Liam and a goalkeeping error. All in all a draw would have been a disappointment with all the goalscoring opportunities Stanley had and its no good blaming Mullers. He worked is socks off and cannot be held responcible for the poor show. We need a striker and a roof!!.
Just listened to Colemans interview. Biggest load of verbal diarrhoea that I have heard in a long time. He blames eveyone but himself, but he's the one that picks the team. He has a go at just about everyone around but nearly bursts into tears if anyone has a go at him. As some one said earlier he comes across as a big child. Every team is going to lose a game now and then, but you don't see many professional managers slagging their team off on radio and in the national press.
I can't get the link to Coley's comments to work, but if it's as over the top as some say then I can only think that the boss is striking a macho pose in order to come over to the media as a perfectionist with exceptionally high standards. If that provides the motivation for the players, as it seems to have done in the past, then fair enough.Otherwise, he's just lost it and in danger of destroying the player's morale after what I thought to be a very creditable performance.
If it's a considered motivation strategy it must be almost unique among managers today. For example, I didn't hear Mark Hughes blasting his players after Bolton mugged them yesterday, after being outplayed by Rovers for most of the game.
But then overpaid so-called Premiership superstars enjoy kid glove treatment in comparison!
If it's a considered motivation strategy it must be almost unique among managers today. For example, I didn't hear Mark Hughes blasting his players after Bolton mugged them yesterday, after being outplayed by Rovers for most of the game.
But then overpaid so-called Premiership superstars enjoy kid glove treatment in comparison!
Someone said:
So disagreeing with his comments is attacking his managerial abilities?
On that notion, no one should ever discuss their team's performance for fear of abandoning their support!
shakermaker said:
No.
But all the following are in this thread. Please explain how this is disagreeing with him. I call it attacking him. What do you call it?
I don't see coleman insulting you for having your opinions. But look at some of the stuff posted in here. I disagree with coleman changing goalkeepers. But I don't insult the man for it.
Please explain how believing that his comments were "totally unfair" is attacking him!
Granted, some of the comments in this thread are a little crass, however if Coleman is to make public statements like the ones he has then backlash like that should be expected from football fans.
Granted, some of the comments in this thread are a little crass, however if Coleman is to make public statements like the ones he has then backlash like that should be expected from football fans.
Walsall played poorly saturday there is no disputing that but we still came away with the points. Its called winning ugly , 15 teams have tried to beat us in this league only one has managed it we must be doing something right . Coleman is an idiot if you were a better side than us you would be top not us , still after reading Colemans idiotic ramblings Accrington are top of something - top of my list of teams i hope we stuff out of sight in the return at Bescot.
shakermaker said:
why? it wasn't you he had a go at and I am sure the players are able to respond if they so wish. Why should he expect a backlash from the likes of you and others on a messageboard?
Doing what he does has got us into the football league and it looks like keeping us here. if this means upsetting a few players who it would seem have taken it on the chin then why does it need you and others to give him a public backlash
God help you if we are ever we find ourselves with a bad manager again
People like you who think John Coleman deserves a public backlash simply don't deserve him as manager of Accrington Stanley. Let him doe his work how he sees fit.
John Coleman deserves a public backlash - shakermaker 2006
