Colemans comments?

If we only took 1300 I would like to know where on earth you could have fitted another 700 fans in that away end
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I'm not quite sure where you got your information about our away capacity being 2000, coz its utter bull sh1t!!!

Our capacity for the 2 sections you had on saturday comes to roughly 1400!!! 1000 behind the goal and 400 in the corner and cowshed.

On Coley though, we're all used to him doing things his way, coz lets face it he's a big bloke and not many would say anything to his face!!!

What gets me though is he does persist in making himself look a bit of a pratt in the press. I notice he's already trying to slyly backpeddle in the telegraph tonight, saying that he was hoping for back to back championships and it came as a major shock and disappointment to him on saturday that we didn't beat a Walsall that didn't perform as well as their league position suggests. (I am paraphrasing)

In some ways I'm with Coley, for instance he's right it was a game we could and probably should have won, but he just seems to go the wrong way about telling the press that. Instead of being grudgingly gracious in defeat, he goes around making silly flipant comments that get taken out of all preportion and we end up with a thread like this!!! He's done twice already this season, I just wish the guy would sit down take a few deep breaths and then talk to the press rather than making himself look a prize pillock!!!
 
A couple of points here...

Attendances - the population of Accrington is 38,000. The population of Walsall is, I'm led to believe, 174,000. Our average attendance so far this season is 2,553. Yours is 5,151. Therefore, per head of population, we are actually BETTER supported than you.

Our stadium - seven seasons ago, we were playing in Unibond One which, if you weren't aware of it, is basically a glorified parks league. Since then, thanks in no small part to our "loudmouth" manager, we've risen faster than any other club in the UK. However, we don't have a rich backer and the meagre resources we do have all went into building up a winning team. So what would you have preferred us to do? (a) Win the conference, have the ground passed and then turn down promotion to the league because fans from clubs like Walsall might feel uncomfortable when they visit here or (b) Spend lots of money we don't have on new stands, then go bankrupt (sorry, we've already been there done that and got the T-shirt!).

We know the ground has its limitations and we hope to improve it but until then, you'll just have to put up with it!
 
Wynonie Harris said:
A couple of points here...

Attendances - the population of Accrington is 38,000. The population of Walsall is, I'm led to believe, 174,000. Our average attendance so far this season is 2,553. Yours is 5,151. Therefore, per head of population, we are actually BETTER supported than you.

Our stadium - seven seasons ago, we were playing in Unibond One which, if you weren't aware of it, is basically a glorified parks league. Since then, thanks in no small part to our "loudmouth" manager, we've risen faster than any other club in the UK. However, we don't have a rich backer and the meagre resources we do have all went into building up a winning team. So what would you have preferred us to do? (a) Win the conference, have the ground passed and then turn down promotion to the league because fans from clubs like Walsall might feel uncomfortable when they visit here or (b) Spend lots of money we don't have on new stands, then go bankrupt (sorry, we've already been there done that and got the T-shirt!).

We know the ground has its limitations and we hope to improve it but until then, you'll just have to put up with it!
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...And dread coming to 'The House of Pain".:eek:
 
i'm sure that we were told that the ground could accommodate 2000 away fans, I assumed that meant in the away end, but i could not swear to that. In relation to your support i take your point that with 40 odd years out and so called big clubs in the area you have got a lkot of work to do. we also suffer from the so called bigger neighbours syndrome and as a result get pretty crap crowds. Attendances can only grow over a period of tiome with an attractive and successful team plus imaginative and consistent efforts by the club to attract new fans, something i don't think walsall are very good at. I did however expect there to be more of a buzz in Accrington that would have at least initially allowed you to attract more fans.

As for your ground there is no denying it is poor, I am surprised that it was passed fit for the league. Don't get me wrong I have been to plenty of
sh!tholes, including Fellows Park. I also do not like many of the sterile new grounds in the middle of nowhere and the location of Bescot leaves a lot to be desired. At least Accy is like an old away game, a few (very friendly) pubs near the ground, a few pints and a laugh with the locals. I would much rather visit Accy than Chester and a few other places in this league. I think you will have trouble attracting significantly more fans in this day and age however unless you can improve the facilities. And unless you can start getting more folk through the doors you will get into the vicious circle of having to get rid of any half decent player that you have and then the only way is down.

All in all i enjoyed the day. Apologies for some of my more sarcy comments in earlier posts, but Coleman p!ssed me off with his ridiculous comments. At least he has done Dicky Dosh's team talk for him for the return match. Anyway good luck and hope to see loads of you at Biscuit Stadium for the return :)
 
As for your ground there is no denying it is poor, I am surprised that it was passed fit for the league.
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When Stanley went bust in 1962 they lost everything, the ground included. Since then many teams have gone bust but have not lost their grounds, they have started up as a new Company and had a ground to play on. When Stanley started up again they leased the current ground from the Council. At the time it was basically a field with a bog in the corner growing bullrushes. Stanley have never had a generous benefactor and all the ground improvements have had to be done and paid for by money generated by the Club. Seven years ago Stanley were in Unibond Division One and relying on gates of around 200-300. A lot of work has gone into getting the ground up to the standard it is now. I know it is probably the worst ground in the league but it has been built with a lot of hard work and commitment. Quite a few clubs in the league have improved their grounds and then gone into administration so at the end of the day their improvements have cost them little. Try to imagine the work that has been done after starting with a field and no money and you will probably realise that it is a bloody good ground.
 
23 years ago when I started going it was literally a field with a perimeter fence, a wooden pavilion stand that seated about 80 people and a bar complete with leaking roof. We now play in a palace, albeit a draughty one
 
Quite a few clubs in the league have improved their grounds and then gone into administration so at the end of the day their improvements have cost them .
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Well said mate, look at this from Walsall fc
1990 - The Bescot Stadium is opened.
1992 - Jeff Bonser buys the club, which again was minutes away from entering receivership. Players were told to find new clubs, and staff were told to clear their desks before Bonser's last minute save.
 
I look forward to hearing John Coleman's interviews on Radio Lancashire and am disappointed that if I miss them live I have to wait till Monday to hear them.

I am sure what he says motivates the players and it certainly stirs debate.

John Coleman is a great competitor who needs to win and it comes through in what he has to say. That can only be good for the club's league placings.

Its better than having a boring manager who does not show the players or supporters that he cares.
 
I don't mind the ground at all. I prefer grounds like that myself, at least it has some character.

I just don't like arrogant football managers talking rubbish and can't accept defeat.

Oh and Stanley Convert: Well don,t come again oh sorry you might have to when your in league two next season cos you aint that good

We've won 7 home games, scored 18 goals and conceded 0. Oh and we've only lost 1 away. Pretty good for a team that "aint that good".

I still think Lincoln are going to win the league though but 3rd place will do us fine.
 
Just now managed to listen to Coley's comments at last by disabling my NTL Netguard firewall temporarily. I must say that he called it honestly as he saw the game and you can appreciate how his burning ambition has propelled us so far in a short time. I don't think he was being disrespectful to Walsall in saying we were miles better than them, as I think any neutral observer at the game would have been hard pressed to know which of the two teams was top of the league. He did contradict himself a few times, however; for example saying we dominated, but then slamming his players for being "lifeless in all areas"! Walsall didn't play well but got the rub of the green and good luck to them - just like us in many games last season.
I, for one, think we are very, very lucky to have a manager who demands high standards, and long may he reign!
 
I think all Coley meant to say was he believes/believed that Walsall were beatable and was disappointed that we didnt turn em over - ambition like that can only be and has proved in the last 7 years, to be a very good thing. Could have worded it better I agree but like others have said, the man is passionate about this club and the football it plays. Id much rather have a manager that shows he gives a toss about the club I support than just fire boring maccawozzagod cliches at the press all the time - at the end of the day..

Jimbo T :horn8:blower
 
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