That was 2 months before compulsory purchase was being considered in the report I have quoted - safe to presume that IF it found a new owner, the new owner wasnt complying with council's request to repair either.
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That was 2 months before compulsory purchase was being considered in the report I have quoted - safe to presume that IF it found a new owner, the new owner wasnt complying with council's request to repair either.
it was sold by auction for £160,000 - 21st feb 2007
Pugh & Company Ltd - Property Auctioneers
so seems the new owner is prob holding out for some kind of grant or such like
Pugh & Company Ltd - Property Auctioneers
so seems the new owner is prob holding out for some kind of grant or such like
It was the stone building next to the commercial, the end part (with the apex at the front) had some coping stones dislodged and the rubble came down onto the road, if the thieves had left the lead and slates alone it would not have happened, I was coming out of bridge street as the traffic had stopped, just missed the fall, when I passed again 30 mins later, the police had closed the road.
So it wasn't near Thwaites Rd. at all. 
Yep, I'll concede that where that warehouse is (or was) is in Church. It figures large in my childhood memories, that place. I used to get the Blackburn bus at the stop opposite (large, green painted wooden shed - very cosy and weatherproof) and you couldn't avoid the warehouse with the canal beside it. After the war, for years, the letters E W S were painted on one wall inside the arch. Somebody told me, when I was 6, that they stood for "Enter water softly". Naturally, I believed it. 
Rindy - The Twenty Steps will always be that to me. For some reason I haven't a clue about I always found that bridge and the steps a bit scary. Probably my brother telling me horror stories about it when I was small.
Yep, I'll concede that where that warehouse is (or was) is in Church. It figures large in my childhood memories, that place. I used to get the Blackburn bus at the stop opposite (large, green painted wooden shed - very cosy and weatherproof) and you couldn't avoid the warehouse with the canal beside it. After the war, for years, the letters E W S were painted on one wall inside the arch. Somebody told me, when I was 6, that they stood for "Enter water softly". Naturally, I believed it. Rindy - The Twenty Steps will always be that to me. For some reason I haven't a clue about I always found that bridge and the steps a bit scary. Probably my brother telling me horror stories about it when I was small.
I used to work in the red brick building to the left of bridge street, someone did buy it after consultations with the council as to it possible usage, he then purcased it and started work on the windows and entrances, only to be told he couldn't use it for what he planned, (as discussed with the council) due to it being situated within the vacinity of Blythes. He planned to turn it into a restaurant/hotel venture I believe. Needless to say he stopped working on it.
Re: The old commercial pub
It was still there last night, but the roadblock was there too, as I said, it was falling rubble from the roof, all undermined by the fact that the roof has been stripped.
It was still there last night, but the roadblock was there too, as I said, it was falling rubble from the roof, all undermined by the fact that the roof has been stripped.
I am 250 miles away, but I can tell you now that the roof that has collapsed is the temporary roof that the council ordered to be placed on the building about 18 months ago. A clear view of this could be had from the spot where the Gypos where encamped last year. So much for modern building techniques, eh!
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?
I would rather drive past a building like "that" than any of the new health centre, projectss etc. It's a G2 listed building for good reason. and probably more deserving of a CPO and restoration than any of the other "regeneration" CPOs down that way
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?
Knock them all down, make more room for the caravans.
That's all you get on it if it was razed to the ground !
The whole area needs thoughtful redevelopment, the Commercial was/ is a substantial building and the area at the rear of it next to the canal could be really pleasant, sadly the proximity of the rather noxious Blythes and Ashworths factories will hinder any plans.
Apologies there andystanley but if you have a look at that particular bit of "heritage" it's an eyesore, derelict shops on one side, derelict pub and warehouse on the other. Now it would seem it's a dangerous eyesore.
You can't blame folk who live near it and pass it on a daily basis for being a bit cheesed off really; it's been like that for donkey's years and nothings been done.
Hardly sits well with the regeneration and new health centres does it? Not exactly a welcoming sight if you are a visitor coming to Accrington for the first time is it ?
"particular" piece of heritage in question is the warehouse, not the derelict pub and shops. if you cant appreciate a piece of architecture like that, and it's significance in the "commercial" history of church, then that explains your response.
I was simply replying to the earlier responses that the whole surrounding area is such a mess that no one could tell which bit had actually collapsed. I have a great affection for Accy and it's environs, it's really sad that the remaining parts of our industrial heritage are in this appalling state of disrepair, if folk were less blinkered and more open to new ideas on conservation then this wouldn't happen ... Owl Hall (I rest my case.)
That's the difference. some "Blinkered" people like Neil, would have the whole lot knocked down, maybe in their place build some nice canalside dwellings for the workshy types....but I assume you are on the conservation/preservation side, so fair play.
I am not sure what your point is on Owl Hall, it's a contentious one, there are a number of differing opinions, mostly nimbies who bought houses built on green belt nearby (Colroy / Brookside estate) in the eighties, with no regard for surrounding residents, and now think that its wrong to allow development close to their houses. Having also had the play area removed from Arden Hall because their own chavvy kids were on there being noisy at night they now seek to prevent the restoration of Owl Hall. If the planners exercise a bit of common sense then they could probably persuade the developer to sympathetically restore the Hall before allowing any further development. (then maybe knock down some of them brooksidey houses that spoil his view!)
I'm very much in favour of the conservation of these buildings, but we need to look at the bigger picture; for example when Oakhill mansion was literally falling down there were calls for demolition and objections to it being redeveloped as a nursing home, it's still there, looks great as a nursing home and has had the renovation needed. That building would have been lost to us all without the renovation, granted it's not a museum open to the public, granted it's a private concern but we can still see it and appreciate it's architecture. Better than nothing eh !
So... It seems that we agree. Conserve not demolish. Preserve (albeit with another use) these grand buildings!