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andrewb

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My money is on David Cameron becoming the new leader, as long as he gets in to the final two the mass membership are bound to vote for him in overwhelming numbers over Davis..
He appeals to voters of all ages, intelligent, charismatic... I really think he can put a new face to the Conservative party and get them back in to power :)
 
Is this realy going to help them or us as to who wins the leadership? Could end up with a Maggie Thatcher type person.
 
Thatcher ruled ;)
But yes.. it could make or break the party for the next election. The last three were pretty crap and didn't really do much.. as opposed to someone like Tony Blair who reformed the Labour party..
 
They have to have the strongest leader possible to oppose Tony Blair. Without a strong oposition then democrecy faulters and dies. There is no real way to bring Tony down to earth unless someone can match him in a verbal punch up and win. At present he has too much of his own way through the lack of strong opposition.
 
The Conservatives are having a party?


Good luck to them.


They'll need it.
 
garinda said:
The Conservatives are having a party?


Good luck to them.


They'll need it.
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I bet you are going rindy just in case they have PB on as a stripper :D
 
I love when New Labour supporters try and flame Conservatives ;)
Since Blair stole all the good ideologys of the right and could well be described as centre-right himself :p
 
Indeed, both cover the same ground at the moment, and they'll both still be around the centre unless someone like Liam Fox gets in :D
 
For Liam Fox to get in the party would need to be united but there are still a few cracks there that might stop him.
 
I think a bet on Cameron is safe.. he will win. its the same old message... scale down goverment (put thousands of people out of work).. cut taxes ( a couple of quid a week to most people, but £100's or £1000's to the tory paymasters ) freedom of the induvidual ( I'm alright jack ,sort yourself out )..help with private health care ( if you've got 3 grand we'll put 2 grand towards your operation... if not stuff you)... exellent stuff, Cameron,Davis,Fox,Clarke... the 4 horsemen
 
Scaling down government is a good thing... you can't build a good economy when theres so much state sector..
Help with private health care... you're still going to get NHS if you dont want to go private, so it's hardly 'stuff you'

The labour party changed and theres no reason why the Conservatives can't either. Before the Labour reforms, they were a very socialist party which wasn't liked by many, (hence they wernt the natural party of government), Neil Kinnock and Blair changed that image by pushing through reforms and taking on Conservative ideologies.

Liam fox won't win an election, you can't win when one party is so centre ground and you go over to the right, it just won't work. Cameron/Clarke want to fight on the centre ground which is where 'modern' politics is going to take place

Oh and.. who cares if it knocks £100/£1000 (I dont know the figrues im just quoting yours) off the tax of rich people? If they've worked hard and earnt it surly they have the right to keep it..
 
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Cyfr said:
Thatcher ruled ;)
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l had the misfortune to attend a private dinner with the old trout and she was just as patronising as she was when she was PM.

New Labour stole all your ideas? Awwwwww:(
Pinch them back and show some innitiative, they are ideas that the voting public apparently want.;)
 
I've hust read your profile and realised you were only three when the Tories booted out your lovely Mrs Thatcher, perhaps you have a different memory of her then than those who lived under her caring sharing policies. Three million unemployed, industries closing left right and centre, poll taxes which even got the staid English up in arms and rioting on the streets.:)
 
Of course I never lived through it, i've only read about it..
The poll tax wasn't a good idea, because well.. not everyone could afford it could they.. I can't comment on unemployment as i've not read about it.

What I do know, is she got voted in three times, the second time she was voted in she got something like an extra 50 majority making a majority of 400. Some of what she did was obviously liked. Although of course she had her bad points ;)

Oh and.. well yes of course many of the ideologies that New Labour took from the Conservatives were liked, thats the whole point of Labours reform.. i'm just trying to say that politics of today has now turned to the centre ground so somebody like Liam Fox who's rightwing wouldnt win an election right now..
 
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Cyfr said:
Of course I never lived through it, i've only read about it..
The poll tax wasn't a good idea, because well.. not everyone could afford it could they.. I can't comment on unemployment as i've not read about it.
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I'd read a bit more then before you start eulogising about her.:)
 
Her economy was initally bad with large scale unemployment as you say, but this was also due to global resession. Her economy soon recovered however with sustained growth..

If it wasn't for her i'm sure the Labour party you see today wouldn't be New Labour at all, it would still be the socialist party of old in which trade unions had all the power.
 
Cyfr said:
Her economy was initally bad with large scale unemployment as you say, but this was also due to global resession. Her economy soon recovered however with sustained growth..

If it wasn't for her i'm sure the Labour party you see today wouldn't be New Labour at all, it would still be the socialist party of old in which trade unions had all the power.
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As you can probably tell I'm more likely to chop off a limb than vote Conservative, though without being at all patronising, I think it's great someone so youthful has a passion for politics.

Your only hope is that like Labour in the 80's, the Tories now seem unelectable, but like the fickle British public things do change, although I'll fight to my last breath to keep the Tories out. They preached Victorian values, a patriarchal society run on hypocritical lines, which totally backfired when it was revealed there was more sleeze than in the back streets of Soho.
 
Complements... aww :( Now I have nothing to argue against :p

Argueing when nobody is right.. is so much fun :p
 
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