Crematorium
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not having its gone
from what i can make out the decision has been reversed but instead of restoring the large cross a piddly little cross will be available and slung under a shelf if anyone wants it removing
like or dislike peter britcliffe he acted on this and raised awareness of it so it couldn't quietly slip by
just your usual insensitive councilor coming up with anything he can to grab a headline and get his name in the press regardless of how many people he causes upset to
i doubt he would have insulted the muslim faith in this way but hey ho its only christians been offended and if the full cross isnt restored as to how it has been for many years the people of Hyndburn will know exactly how little he thinks of the people he came to live among
£2000 to remove a cross and slap a bit of white paint on the walls then pee off a whole district - bargain
just a note
no muslims complained nor did anyone else he thought this up all off his own bat although he did use the jehovas and atheists to justify his decision
his next stunt will be removing the crosses off hot cross buns
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ken moss is the man in question .... yeah that one
from what i can make out the decision has been reversed but instead of restoring the large cross a piddly little cross will be available and slung under a shelf if anyone wants it removing
like or dislike peter britcliffe he acted on this and raised awareness of it so it couldn't quietly slip by
just your usual insensitive councilor coming up with anything he can to grab a headline and get his name in the press regardless of how many people he causes upset to
i doubt he would have insulted the muslim faith in this way but hey ho its only christians been offended and if the full cross isnt restored as to how it has been for many years the people of Hyndburn will know exactly how little he thinks of the people he came to live among
£2000 to remove a cross and slap a bit of white paint on the walls then pee off a whole district - bargain
just a note
no muslims complained nor did anyone else he thought this up all off his own bat although he did use the jehovas and atheists to justify his decision
his next stunt will be removing the crosses off hot cross buns
ps:
ken moss is the man in question .... yeah that one
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You do surprise me, I thought Ken was one of the more "balanced" of the labour luvvie lefties ........ Aye well! You live & learn.
I thought this would crop up on here. It's just another headline-grabbing lie from Peter Britcliffe. The cross will remain up unless requested to be taken down, not the other way around.
Government guidelines now state that public buildings should be non-secular so the only difference is that a cross is now permanently displayed on a stand rather than the wall. It makes it easier to remove when asked.
Government guidelines now state that public buildings should be non-secular so the only difference is that a cross is now permanently displayed on a stand rather than the wall. It makes it easier to remove when asked.
I think you meant mis-interpreted
Council accused of ?staggering U-turn? in Accrington crematorium cross saga (From Lancashire Telegraph)
We haven't heard of any other councils making similar decisions. I would like to see evidence of this 'government guideline' Until then, I won't believe it.
It cropped up on facebook as well, far more people are annoyed on yon, yet you have not responded on there nor clarified on here exactly whats happening/happened, so why should anyone take your word about someone lying?
As this is supposed to be a Christian country it should be the other way around - the cross should remain there unless a funeral organizer requests it's removal.
What next churches to remove the cross & paint out their windows?
I'm sure mosques would not be removing their symbology.
Another blot on the world of sensibility & score 1 for the PC nutters.
What next churches to remove the cross & paint out their windows?
I'm sure mosques would not be removing their symbology.
Another blot on the world of sensibility & score 1 for the PC nutters.
It's got nothing to do with mosques or the Muslim faith, they don't use crems.
It's because the majority of people (40%) do not have a faith. Yes 40% is a majority in Hyndburn, thats why the benches were removed, because the majority of people ( 3or 4 ? ) were causing problems
I am not overly religious, but I would say to those who find the cross offensive 'Take yourself off to somewhere that does not offend your very delicate sensibilities'.
I am offended by lots of things in life......but you have to build a bridge and get over it.
As Rainbow Six says, this is still a Christian country.....and yet people are surprised and offended if they see a cross in a Crematorium. Whatever next?
Leave the cross where it is. The person who is being cremated may not have strong religious views, but many of those who attend the ceremony may have religious ideal and may find that the cross is not only appropriate but a symbol of comfort.
Yes, Cashy...I think you have scored a direct hit with that last post of yours.
I am offended by lots of things in life......but you have to build a bridge and get over it.
As Rainbow Six says, this is still a Christian country.....and yet people are surprised and offended if they see a cross in a Crematorium. Whatever next?
Leave the cross where it is. The person who is being cremated may not have strong religious views, but many of those who attend the ceremony may have religious ideal and may find that the cross is not only appropriate but a symbol of comfort.
Yes, Cashy...I think you have scored a direct hit with that last post of yours.
PC horse manure, it benefits nobody. If anyone is offended, screw them. Bring back common sense. Oh ... I know it's a little early for this ... have a Merry Christmas.
Which reminds me: Last year I was watching the Toronto Santa Clause Parade. In the crowd were lots of muslim families with their kids, all cheering and waving, most of them wearing Ho Ho Hats. They didn't seem one damned bit offended.Your statement is quite clear - "The cross will remain" So there can be no doubt that the original cross will be re-instated and not replaced by a removable altar top miniature version.
Please will you confirm to the electorate of Hyndburn that what you have said is in fact what you mean.
May I suggest that you look at the threads on Hyndburn Chat on this subject. You will then see for yourself the outpourings of anger that you have generated.
I saw about this in last nights Lancs Telegraph and then lo and behold it is in todays national press. I think Hyndburn council need an arithmetic lesson as 40% does not equal a majority and therefore is not democratic. I think the cross should stay put and if any family do not want it then it could be removed for their service. What these idiots will think of next beggars? Will all the grave stones on the cemetery that have a cross on them have to be removed too in case someone is offended passing them on the way to the crem?
It isn't Muslims that require the cross to be removed, Muslims do not cremate their dead.
So 40 % of the local population do not profess any religion doesn't mean that they would find the cross offensive, I do not believe that humanists would object to this symbol either.
That must mean that it HAS to be the PC brigade making a problem where none exists....how very sad that they can find nothing better to do with their time and energy.
So 40 % of the local population do not profess any religion doesn't mean that they would find the cross offensive, I do not believe that humanists would object to this symbol either.
That must mean that it HAS to be the PC brigade making a problem where none exists....how very sad that they can find nothing better to do with their time and energy.