Crematorium

In the four years I was in charge there the cross was never requested to be covered up. It was mentioned in the office over ten years ago that they were considering a curtain that could be drawn over the cross but never came to be, partly due to no real desire for it to be covered.
 
lancsdave said:
As Ken seems to be quite shy I'll post the answer for you :)

Hyndburn council dismisses UKIP MEP's criticism over crematorium crucifix - Accrington Observer
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Now, now my children, calm down, isn't it obvious? They took the cross down whilst they were doing a refurb, realised they had run out of funds to put it back up, so needed someone/something to blame, what better than some vague directive from P.C./EU brigade.

They lie, I know they lie, you know they lie, they no doubt laugh and titter at ALL the other lies they have got away with.

This whole thread is bull!

Time we got some honest politicians representing us.

This thread has shown more honest folk here in the Borough than those representing us.

Now I will re-enter my darkened room and allow the world to pass me by for another six months, it's far better than pretending our world is full of people that only have my best interests at heart until they get my vote.
 
Paul Nuttall has weighed into the Accy Crem Cross controversy......

Paul who?

You remember that bald headed UKIP scouser who occasionally got a word in edgeways when his boss Nigel Farage paused for breath?

The one who said UKIP were on the march before the election? Before the debate moved on and the Tories promised a referendum and Labour elected a leader who wants to leave the EU for reasons diametrically opposite anything UKIP believe in?

Yes him. A career politician desperate for a cause.

How many cremations has he been to at Accy Crem?

Precisely!
 
I note that Mr Moss is keeping his head well below the parapet again. I wonder how long he will refrain from posting/commenting this time. I hope he realises that everyone can see when he has visited the site.
 
Barrie Yates said:
I note that Mr Moss is keeping his head well below the parapet again. I wonder how long he will refrain from posting/commenting this time. I hope he realises that everyone can see when he has visited the site.
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Yep not much of a man, accuses someone then dont come back when asked to clarify.:rolleyes:
 
guinness said:
Ken Moss tried to screw with the memorial in Huncoat and got his backside kicked, he's had it kicked on his own now defunct facebook group, he's had it kicked here with the benches and now he's had it kicked in the national media....but according to him it's all Britcliffes fault *sigh*
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He's had it kicked again now by Miles Parkinson who has ordered the cross to be restored to its original position.

From the Telegraph: U-TURN: Accrington Crematorium?s controversial six-foot cross restored on chapel wall (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Cllr Moss was not immediately available for comment yesterday.
 
Well done Miles Parkinson, a small step in restoring my confidence in the Council - perhaps a post less demanding can be found for Mr Moss
 
I understand that the Cross has been restored to it's rightful place in the Crematorium, although the person who saw it thought that it was smaller than the original one. If that is so perhaps the original one was taken away as scrap by someone who wanted some nice pieces of wood, or who has a wood burner.
Mr Moss hasn't left yet Cashy, although he no longer frequents Accyweb, and now seems to have also deserted Hyndburn Chat he is now writing for the Observer - he produced quite a lengthy letter to the Editor last week - I am still trying to understand what he is saying. One point he does make is that people should shop locally and he shops in Accrington every week - wonder why he doesn't shop in Rishton?
 
I haven't posted up until now because I can't quite believe the crazy directions this thread has gone in. The late Jaysay and myself may not have always seen eye to eye but I fancy he would have put a lot of you straight by now.

For the record Barrie, it is exactly the same cross. I am not on Hyndburn Chat because I gave Gary Martin some straight answers which he didn't like so I got banned. I understand from other users that some fantastic claims are being made over there regarding the cross (I have burned it, apparently) so I take the whole thing with a pinch of salt.

I'm sorry that my letter in the Observer was so confusing for you. It was written in plain English and the editor obviously felt it was print worthy. Evidently less so for you?

Finally, I shop in Rishton several times a week. I didn't realise that I was under surveillance but I suggest you tighten up security if I am able to spend money in the village so freely without you knowing about it.
 
Well well, silly me, thought yeh had returned to finally hold yer hand up!!! but no yeh returned to use me owd mate, who cant answer fer himself, I shouldn't really be shocked, but i am. by the way i now take your claims wi a pinch of salt Mr Moss, cos i have heard none of those allegations yer making of Hyndburn Chat.:rolleyes:
 
Then ask Gary why I can't find Hyndburn Chat on any searches. He must really have dug deep because even my partner has been kicked off and blocked as she can't find it either.

I have no problem that Miles stepped in and made the decision to keep it. Despite all the imagined reasons why this happened, the fact still stands that it is a government guideline for all public crematoria which I was adhering to. A guideline, not a rule, and I got it wrong in this case. I have no qualms about saying that and never have had but that bit has strangely not been reported in the press.

The problem is that the truth isn't as juicy as a lie.
 
Ken Moss said:
I haven't posted up until now because I can't quite believe the crazy directions this thread has gone in. The late Jaysay and myself may not have always seen eye to eye but I fancy he would have put a lot of you straight by now.

For the record Barrie, it is exactly the same cross. I am not on Hyndburn Chat because I gave Gary Martin some straight answers which he didn't like so I got banned. I understand from other users that some fantastic claims are being made over there regarding the cross (I have burned it, apparently) so I take the whole thing with a pinch of salt.

I'm sorry that my letter in the Observer was so confusing for you. It was written in plain English and the editor obviously felt it was print worthy. Evidently less so for you?

Finally, I shop in Rishton several times a week. I didn't realise that I was under surveillance but I suggest you tighten up security if I am able to spend money in the village so freely without you knowing about it.
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What a shame, yes, what a shame that you had to use a deceased member in an attempt to strengthen your belated reply.



Ken Moss said:
Then ask Gary why I can't find Hyndburn Chat on any searches. He must really have dug deep because even my partner has been kicked off and blocked as she can't find it either.

I have no problem that Miles stepped in and made the decision to keep it. Despite all the imagined reasons why this happened, the fact still stands that it is a government guideline for all public crematoria which I was adhering to. A guideline, not a rule, and I got it wrong in this case. I have no qualms about saying that and never have had but that bit has strangely not been reported in the press.

The problem is that the truth isn't as juicy as a lie.
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What a shame, yes what a shame that you took a guideline and unthinkingly applied it as if it had been written in stone without first giving it a great deal of thought.

Guidelines are just that guidelines something a thinking representative of our borough would have in this instance, rejected as a no brainer.

What a shame, yes what a shame that you can't find Hyndburn chat, because I for one don't care about what you, or it's members may have said about this particular issue on there it's what's been said on here that we pay attention to. This is AccyWeb you have enough of a downer about this site to fill a server, no need for us to find that you can't get on with folk elsewhere and have our servers filled with that none news as well.

I also have no problem with Miles stepping in just a shame that steps had been taken resulting in the need for him to step in.

The truth isn't as juicy as a lie? Of course it is!

You took the truth be it in the form of a guideline and applied it where it upset members of your community, no-one from any race or creed had shown any animosity to the cross being there but there sure as hell were plenty that took um-bridge because you had it removed.

Perhaps when next you do something on my or anyone else's behalf you will think back to this oops of yours and apply just a little common sense?

Let me re-assure you though, no matter how many times you come on site to tell us off (what a joy it would be if one day you came on and actually had something positive to say about the site) no matter how wrong you are, no matter how many of us you may attempt to insult, unlike Hyndburn chat, you won't find yourself banned just because the mods or members don't like what you say.

If I don't hear from you again until local election time I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas and a thoughtful new year.
 
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