Democracy or Dictatorship?

pendy

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The Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill has now completed its committee stages. No problem?

This Bill, if made law, will empower any minister by order to make provisions amending, repealing or replacing any legislation, primary or secondary, for any purpose.

This would NOT have to be voted on by a full session of the House.

This means that laws could be made, changed or repealed without full scrutiny and without proper debate or democratic process.

To give one example in theory an unpopular Government could extend its life beyond the five year maximum now allowed.

Where does that leave us? - democracy or dictatorship?
 
It's been creeping slowly in that direction for a while but this puts the tin lid on the biscuit as my Mum used to say.
 
This Bill really scares me. The best of it is, this government may be in power but what they fail to realise is that the majority of the people DID NOT vote for them. They say they will only change inconsequential laws....the 'red tape' laws.... but already there are murmurs around Whitehall that if the Bill goes through then they will make ID cards compulsory......the ID cards were thrown out by the Lords as they felt that they should be voluntary....and anyone who needed a passport ought not to be forced into getting one of these wretched ID cards. This Government is corrupt and I do not trust it as far as I could throw it. If the Bill goes through then we won't have anything like a democracy.
 
I'm just surprised nobody in the media seems to have kicked up a fuss about it. As I see it this is a HUGE thing which could let the government do whatever they please without any form of opposition... :(
 
You are both spot on with those observations....it scares the bejasus out of me......makes me want to emigrate before the brown stuff hits the fan.
 
But this government went to war to rid a country of dictatorship and iintroduce democracy. By FORCE. What is democratic about that.
 
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A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of Government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.(Written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler, nearly two centuries ago.)
 
Cyfr said:
I'm just surprised nobody in the media seems to have kicked up a fuss about it. As I see it this is a HUGE thing which could let the government do whatever they please without any form of opposition... :(

I'm not surprised...it's not news - everyone knows the democracy is corrupt in this country; the only HUGE things in politics according to the media are minster's sex scandals and/or divorces...what a sad state of affairs :(
 
Cash for peerages.......Ministers saying they don't know what their other half has been doing (again, cash orientated......)The PM's wife doing lecture tours...supposedly to help sick children but pocketing more money for herself than the charity gets. I always thought that Labour was about helping the working classes to get out of the mud......New Labour seems to be rolling around in it and revelling. Politics stinks......no politician ever comes out of politics poor.
 
I wonder how those politicians round here dining at silver service would take to paying for their frozen food because their meals on wheels has stopped...

Every politician is as self centered as the day is long, we all knew that. This latest power crazy motion is no surprise
 
i have always voted labour,,but now i realy cant see the woods for trees ..it scares the pants off me now... they will have to come up with some good explanation for me voting for them next time...:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
We keep saying President Blair and if this mushrooms the Mayamar Republic will be a lot more democratic than us. There is a film out Friday that shows what could happen if this happens and the possible reaction of people. Forgot its name though it is on the adverts enough. :o
 
There was a thread on the same subject a couple of weeks ago and it ended up just like this one - a series of posts all agreeing with each other. Why will no Labour party members come on here and defend their government's actions? Gayle tells us she doesn't feel qualified to defend national policies. Presumably, Graham Jones feels the same way. So why doesn't Greg Pope make an appearance to discuss government policies? The subject of this thread would make a good start!

Equally, perhaps Conservative and Lib Dem members could explain why their parties aren't kicking up a fuss about this extremely serious issue which could have far-reaching consequences for the future of democracy in this country.
 
Greg Pope aint brave enough and the other parties proberly see it as an advantage if they get in. We put the MP's in the house and we can take them out. Seems to mee they are running scared and see this action as a way to avoid the resposibility we give them to represent our intrests.
 
dictorships work...

sadam hussain had his country in order and look at the mess its in now hes gone
 
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