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I know you all will be waiting with baited breath to hear why am optimistic that Mr. David Oneil will pull it off. I now intend to give a statement regarding my reasons.
First and foremost is his own statement that he will not let Stanley fold.
Secondly even though some of you think that it is bad policy to be in debt, in the real world business is run on managed debt(anyone got a mortgage) . The Mancs and Liverpool owe Millions. The crucial debt at the moment is £308,000, about the same price as a detached house in Whalley. DON ownes houses,he lets some players stay in them for nothing, If he sells one of his houses, the debts gone. Dont look too far ahead, next season will pay the next crucial tax bill. Bobby Grant is worth a Million(imho) so lets all chill out,get behind the team and the manager, and chairman. If it does turn pearshape you can all say I TOLD YOU SO, meanwhile I will continue to remain possitive and await your howls of derision

Not very convincing, Caretaker, though I sincerely hope your optimism is justified. I know plenty of people who own houses, but all are bought on a mortgage, so I wouldn't bank on that. Anyway, how long do you think it takes to sell a house these days?
 
Mortgages are given on the premise that the borrower has the capacity to pay the sum borrowed within the required timescale...fail to satisfy those conditions and it's repo time....

A.S.F.C. has been given an 8 week deadline to pay a debt, which in the eyes of many and in my opinion....is non negotiable... no deals or comprimises... I may be wrong...Maybe if the club pay the majority of the debt (and by that I mean at least 75/85 %+) H.M.R.C may give the club a little more time....

I hope the club aren't gambling on this being the case....and more to the point.... the nearer the deadline looms, as fans we're all still in the dark and hoping that we can meet or satisfy the terms of the deadline...

I'd re-itterate the views of a few that I spoke to at Yesterday's game against Cheltenham.... The people I spoke to are of the opinion that the club MUST have plans in place in order to satisfy the conditions of the impending deadline........maybe the views I heard were in hope or be it by faith....

At this point, I'd put myself into the faith and hope category, especially after turning away a man with the necessary capital to solve the immediate problem.


It's a pity the Club can't share the solution to the impending problem (IF they have it) with people who matter.. i.e the fans .....It would certainly put a lot of minds at some sort of comparitive rest.....maybe the club will share this information nearer to the time....once the matter is hopefully resolved...to the satisfaction of all concerned....

Either way....D- day looms large......28th October.

Like many I hope that we can look forward after that date and onwards and upwards......

Only time will tell.........
 
I know you all will be waiting with baited breath to hear why am optimistic that Mr. David Oneil will pull it off. I now intend to give a statement regarding my reasons.
First and foremost is his own statement that he will not let Stanley fold.
Secondly even though some of you think that it is bad policy to be in debt, in the real world business is run on managed debt(anyone got a mortgage) . The Mancs and Liverpool owe Millions. The crucial debt at the moment is £308,000, about the same price as a detached house in Whalley. DON ownes houses,he lets some players stay in them for nothing, If he sells one of his houses, the debts gone. Dont look too far ahead, next season will pay the next crucial tax bill. Bobby Grant is worth a Million(imho) so lets all chill out,get behind the team and the manager, and chairman. If it does turn pearshape you can all say I TOLD YOU SO, meanwhile I will continue to remain possitive and await your howls of derision
Are you trying to say we are going to borrow money on the strength of possible future earnings to pay one debt but taking on another debt? You cannot compare Stanley with Liverpool or Man Utd.
 
I was asked to give my reasons why I was optimistic that the DON would get us out of the mess left behind by Whalley. I mentioned some of his options,how he does it is up to him. I think he will pull it off, and am confident I will use all my season tickets.
 
I mentioned some of his options,how he does it is up to him. I think he will pull it off, and am confident I will use all my season tickets.

Some of his options? All I think you mentioned was to sell one of "his" houses! When? Only 2 weeks to go.
Am I dreaming all this nonsense?
 
Some of his options? All I think you mentioned was to sell one of "his" houses! When? Only 2 weeks to go.
Am I dreaming all this nonsense?

Red....this is more than dreaming..it is now a nightmare !...made worse by having no one to awaken us from it!!...

I leave the Fiscal discussions to those who so obviously are more skilled and knowledgeable in this area....all I can do is keep on repeating my pleas for
better Management...more obvious Control being demonstrated in relation to the current emergency..(Which some people fail to recognise as being the brink of disaster I feel!!)...and some words which will offer real assurance to those like myself who are losing patience with, and faith in those who are daily bringing our Club, not as a business..but a real and once vibrant entity to it's knees! ...

I shudder to think just what I will read and hear next!!...Am I the only one who thinks that the situation almost at the point of no return ?....

If I sound gloomy this evening...it's because I am !!

 
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Less than a week to go.
Is there anything we can do as fans to find out the clubs future ?
Direct or not ?
 
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Less than a week to go.
Is there anything we can do as fans to find out the clubs future ?
Direct or not ?


Fill out a holiday report? :rolleyes:

The whole affair is absolute garbage! Maybe a clean sweep and restart is the only way forward?
 
"Our initial target is to submit 10,000 reports, therefore £10,000"

Come on,Seriously as if :(
 
I agree we the fans have been silent too long, pussy footing around, questions need to be answered.:mad:

Questions about how the whole business has been handled really must be asked and answered, whether or not the tax bill is paid. It seems to me that the longer it goes on without any meaningful announcement being made, the more doubtful it becomes that the bill can indeed be paid.

I feel that the fans have been very badly let down. They have put a huge amount of effort into the SOS Appeal, but the communication from the club has been too little, too generalised and too contradictory.
 
Tell ya, its all down to "do I put my finger tips in my pocket or go right up to my elbows"
 
If Mr.O'Neil is indeed on the walk to Rochdale as reported, then he'd better have some convincing answers ready.
Mussolini's fate at the end of WW2 will seem like a cake-walk by comparison if it all eventually goes t**s up.
 
If Mr.O'Neil is indeed on the walk to Rochdale as reported, then he'd better have some convincing answers ready.
Mussolini's fate at the end of WW2 will seem like a cake-walk by comparison if it all eventually goes t**s up.

I consider you a friend; but to me talk like that, joking or not can only be detrimental; if David O’Neil or any managers, directors or phone sales girls attend the walk they should be welcomed and accommodated. They will have bigger sponsors and above that their presence should be seen as a gesture of solidarity.

Rob as asked for a fans forum; that should be the only place for venting spleens and wiping your ropes out.
 
I consider you a friend; but to me talk like that, joking or not can only be detrimental; if David O’Neil or any managers, directors or phone sales girls attend the walk they should be welcomed and accommodated. They will have bigger sponsors and above that their presence should be seen as a gesture of solidarity.

Rob as asked for a fans forum; that should be the only place for venting spleens and wiping your ropes out.
I appreciate your point of view, Doug, but surely the time has passed for patiently waiting for our fate? If there is not a big problem why have the club not allayed our fears? We all appear to be sleep-walking to disaster, although I hope with all my heart I am wrong. If the powers that be are in attendance on the walk I will welcome the opportunity to politely ask what the plan is, but if there are no satisfactory answers at this late stage, surely you would agree that we are doomed?
 
I appreciate your point of view, Doug, but surely the time has passed for patiently waiting for our fate? If there is not a big problem why have the club not allayed our fears? We all appear to be sleep-walking to disaster, although I hope with all my heart I am wrong. If the powers that be are in attendance on the walk I will welcome the opportunity to politely ask what the plan is, but if there are no satisfactory answers at this late stage, surely you would agree that we are doomed?

We’re not doomed; they have too much to lose personally and like you say if they did **** us over they would have nowhere to hide.

Over the last few months seven or eight of us have criticized, pilloried, slagged and whinged our way out of their hearts, they owe us nothing. The vast majority of supporters have said little if anything and have trusted that all will be ok; and it will be ok in the end.

It’s the future we need to focus on; how can we help them move forward and by doing that we will assure ourselves of a future and reward what the lads are doing on the pitch.

If we keep on moaning and criticizing they will just shut the door even firmer.

That said a lot of good stuff has come out of discussion on this site, it wouldn’t hurt Mr. O’Neil or the club to take note and learn to work with us, and visa versa.
 
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