Diving

Thought I heard on the radio that, before it can be enforced, it has to be accepted by the PL, EFL, and even, for some reason, the PFA.
Almost as much bureaucracy in football as the EU.:rolleyes:
 
Yes, the FA have voted for it but before it can come into force those three other 'stakeholders' have also to agree. They may do so, or have said that they will, but I don't know if it's entirely within the FA's powers to impose it against the will of the other parties.
 
And what happens in a situation such as that in the Luton v Blackpool game this evening when the utterly useless Darren Deadman awarded a penalty after a blatant dive by Danny Hylton? Hylton scored the penalty - but would he be retrospectively banned?:confused:
 
They are also talking of retrospective action by viewing the incident after the match has finished.
If that is the case, what will they do when a player has been booked, and possibly sent off, for diving when it later becomes evident that the player was indeed fouled. Do they rescind the card and any punishment that followed - what if a penalty was awarded (foul play in the penalty area), will they change the result? This could turn into an absolute screw up, even if the match is stopped to review the incident as in R.U. then we can look forward to extended match time. Look what happened when they changed the offside laws.
Of course the TV pundits don't help the current situation, not very often that two of them agree.
 
Revived Red said:
And what happens in a situation such as that in the Luton v Blackpool game this evening when the utterly useless Darren Deadman awarded a penalty after a blatant dive by Danny Hylton? Hylton scored the penalty - but would he be retrospectively banned?:confused:
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Of Blackpool complained the the FA panel would revue the footage and if found guilty of diving would be banned
 
in a perfect world there would be no diving but once its there its hard to get rid of. a lot of it is me its just more pressure on officialsabout the angle the ref sees the incident. seen games myself when an incident looks like a dive from where i,ve been sat but others have said contact was made when they were in another part of the ground. then the slow motion replays you get are not 100 per cent for a decision. just more problems for officials and we know what,ll happen for stanley players don,t we.
 
st06nc2 said:
Of Blackpool complained the the FA panel would revue the footage and if found guilty of diving would be banned
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Last night it wouldn't have mattered but what if Hylton's penalty had won the match for Luton? That's the difficulty of retrospective refereeing. The cheater's team could still win. But if the incident can be reviewed immediately, the resulting penalty would not have been given.
Sam Allardyce is asking what happens, retrospectively, to to the player who gets booked for diving but was genuinely fouled. Perhaps they'll introduce an appeal process for every referee's decision. That'll suit much the media, of course, as it'll give them more to endlessly blather about.
What it reveals is the growing disparity between watching live football (played in the here and now, in real time, refereed by human beings with human imperfections) and watching what may as well be virtual football (played on a screen, in slow-motion, endlessly replayed, from ten different angles, 'refereed ' by 'experts' who can pontificate as if they have the wisdom of Solomon).
 
If the FA are to use any 'Teaching Videos' then they must surely watch some of the famous......
RORY PRENDERGAST........:eek:
Diver extraordinaire!:D:jimbo:
 
Revived Red said:
And what happens in a situation such as that in the Luton v Blackpool game this evening when the utterly useless Darren Deadman awarded a penalty after a blatant dive by Danny Hylton? Hylton scored the penalty - but would he be retrospectively banned?:confused:
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More importantly would the penalty be declared void and perhaps change the result?
 
If someone is running flat out the slightest nudge on one of his legs, at a particular moment, can result in him falling. If the referee, and possibly the linesman, don't get a clear view of the nudge then the player is accused of diving.
Of course all the panel pundits will love the situation - they will get even more chance of telling us how a player cheated and should therefore be banned - and the bias from their playing days kicks in once again.
 
But Barrie, I don't believe "the slightest nudge" is a foul.
The way some players appear to talk is that they feel fully justified in falling down if a defender even so much as brushes a finger against them. Such peripheral contact, in what remains a game that allows 'fair' contact (shoulder charge, anyone?), should not be used as an excuse for a full length, arms outstretched, mouth-gaping dive. That's cheating, and pathetic in grown children.
 
choirboy said:
If the FA are to use any 'Teaching Videos' then they must surely watch some of the famous......
RORY PRENDERGAST........:eek:
Diver extraordinaire!:D:jimbo:
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Ha, ha - yeah bless him, Rory did it so well & (as Kenny Everett would say), always in the best possible taste :D
 
The problem is the refs very rarely give free kicks for penal fouls if a player doesn't go to ground, if they stay on their feet off balance and lose the ball due to someone kicking lumps out of them the ref tens to play on.
 
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