Diving

I assume if there is any contact at all then it's not a dive.

if there is none then it's a dive? BUT Even if the ref thinks there was no contact (i.e. Gives benefit of doubt to defender) he can still give benefit of doubt to attacker re sending off? "Beyond reasonable doubt"?
 
Chewbacca said:
The problem is the refs very rarely give free kicks for penal fouls if a player doesn't go to ground,

probebly due to the fact if you do give a penalty without the player going to the ground after a trip or foul tackle you get so much grief in all levels of football you,re loathed to do it again. done it on occasions but usually end up with a few cautioned for dissent.
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Lord Didsbury said:
I assume if there is any contact at all then it's not a dive
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It surely depends on the definition of "contact".
I've heard professional players on the radio appearing to justify going to ground if they so much as feel any touch anywhere on their bodies. A brush against their arms, a "slight nudge" as someone else suggested.
Having been tripped up many a time on the hallowed turf that was Highams, my unscientific acid test is that any player who has time to stretch out his arms and scream in false agony is, more than likely, play-acting.
 
Exile on Spencer St said:
It surely depends on the definition of "contact".
my unscientific acid test is that any player who has time to stretch out his arms and scream in false agony is, more than likely, play-acting.
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that,s totally true exile. just tripped up over a stone this morning on the moors with my dog and only he knew what happened. no screaming and used my left hand to break my fall. apart from franny lee years ago all this diving and going down easy seems a fairly modern import from the continent.
 
There's no such thing as "diving", if a player lays down because he's tired, just leave him there and get on with it, if he has a broken leg I suppose the game should stop. I remember playing in the 60s, if a player went down for nothing you just notified him that next time he would would have a reason to go down.
 
Watched a good programme about Celtic's European victory 50 :eek: years ago. Inter got a very early goal thanks to a penalty from....a dive. Didn't do 'em any good in the end, but it's amazing to remember just how long that particular form of cheating, as regarded by most British fans, has been practiced in some parts of the world.
 
Exile on Spencer St said:
Watched a good programme about Celtic's European victory 50 :eek: years ago. Inter got a very early goal thanks to a penalty from....a dive. Didn't do 'em any good in the end, but it's amazing to remember just how long that particular form of cheating, as regarded by most British fans, has been practiced in some parts of the world.
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yeh i watched it also, its always happened, but these days its become a epidemic.
 
but it's amazing to remember just how long that particular form of cheating said:
problem is they don,t see it as something wrong. its just like we don,t with the full blooded tackle that takes the ball first then the man. called being over aggressive nowadays but would rather see this than some guy with fancy coloured boots on taking the dive in the box or any other part of the pitch. different age and cultures i,m afraid. bring back div.3 north.
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