I think you'l find that neally all if not all know about whats happend to Mr ONeill PR!!
D'on gone!
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i would imagine that the previously approved share issue was officially given the in ahead to happen. Ilyas and Peter obviously wanted it to happen and Rob would have had the casting vote to push it through. I reckon don threw his hat in at that point. Eric or Don, it doesn't matter anymore - their 51 will now be worth 25? 10? Dunno, but their influence will now be significantly diluted. We can now look forwards to a significant cash influx when the shares are ready for sale.
I think that 'the fans' would probably only purchase a small amount of shares and that we'll be hoping for some decent bulk buying from the business sector. I'd like to see the council take some kind of fiscal interest in this move as well. I'm more than made up with the promise that installments can be made as this will probably double the pittance that i can afford to chip in! I would suspect that it will also aid the budgeting of the many businesses that we will want to get involved.
I think that 'the fans' would probably only purchase a small amount of shares and that we'll be hoping for some decent bulk buying from the business sector. I'd like to see the council take some kind of fiscal interest in this move as well. I'm more than made up with the promise that installments can be made as this will probably double the pittance that i can afford to chip in! I would suspect that it will also aid the budgeting of the many businesses that we will want to get involved.
I would think the fact that businesses would want to get involved would be an unexpected bonus, they have hardly be queuing up recently
I would imagine there'll be a lot more confidence around the town now that things have changed. Also the announcements, depending how they're done, that the 'Community' will own the club, that we'll do more for the people rather than people doing everything for us, and that a new stadium build is practically around the corner, will instill further confidence.
To cite an example, Graham Charnley at Interlink used to put a lot of money into the club but got nowt back and was disillusioned at the shambolic way we operated. Maybe a new found confidence in the club could inspire him to come back? maybe rather than drip feeding 20k here and there he would prefer to come in and purchase a block of £100k worth of shares? Like I said it's only an example of a person and I'd be in no way insinuating that he would or should. But he could?
To cite an example, Graham Charnley at Interlink used to put a lot of money into the club but got nowt back and was disillusioned at the shambolic way we operated. Maybe a new found confidence in the club could inspire him to come back? maybe rather than drip feeding 20k here and there he would prefer to come in and purchase a block of £100k worth of shares? Like I said it's only an example of a person and I'd be in no way insinuating that he would or should. But he could?
Lots of reassurance will be needed externally for business interest, also note ossie mills is moving back out of town centre and no proper utilidge of promoting Stanley where the locals are, some do find the dredge up to the crown a put off but do want to part with their cash into our club.
as CEO does he not get that anyway? as would the company secretary?
The long term benefits of the Council linking up with the Club could be with Leisure facilties that would benefit not just the Club but maybe the whole of Accrington by usage of the community at large and probably produce other spin offs.
But with fiscal tightening around most Communities and Councils who knows where we will be when the time comes?
I am not too familiar with the Leisure facilities and how modern they are in Hynburn and whether it would be beneficial?
That is for now further down the line
But with fiscal tightening around most Communities and Councils who knows where we will be when the time comes?
I am not too familiar with the Leisure facilities and how modern they are in Hynburn and whether it would be beneficial?
That is for now further down the line
a lot depnds on where any new ground would be. Away from where it is now would you be looking at an area where one would need to drive to? if so then the leisure, corporate, function facilities would have to be A1 top drawer stuff as you are competing with every other 'drive to' facility. If, for example, the ground remained where it is then you are looking at providing something (slightly above) adequate for the needs of the thousand or so people who live within a ten minute walk.
Even more down the line though, but much lies within the vision that Ilyas has. If he is prepared to bank roll it then it can be whatever it wants to be, but his written vision on here at the beginning of summer was that it would be something that lies within the remit of both LCC and HBC, in order to maintain their long term interest. Grants from a plethora of public bodies will be available, outside of the LEGI requirement of all seater stadia etc. Does he need the money from these bodies in order to maintain their interest? and does that come at any cost? He will have done his homework before the first shovel is lifted and I have more than every confidence it would be done in the best manner possible.
I just hope he doesn't have a twin brother that he wants to dedicate the ground to, can you imagine the KHAN TWIN STADIUM?
Even more down the line though, but much lies within the vision that Ilyas has. If he is prepared to bank roll it then it can be whatever it wants to be, but his written vision on here at the beginning of summer was that it would be something that lies within the remit of both LCC and HBC, in order to maintain their long term interest. Grants from a plethora of public bodies will be available, outside of the LEGI requirement of all seater stadia etc. Does he need the money from these bodies in order to maintain their interest? and does that come at any cost? He will have done his homework before the first shovel is lifted and I have more than every confidence it would be done in the best manner possible.
I just hope he doesn't have a twin brother that he wants to dedicate the ground to, can you imagine the KHAN TWIN STADIUM?
i'll get me coat ... 
Well having taken 24 hours to think about the situation........ WHAT A RESULT.
Gutted I wasnt there to witness the Crown last night, bloody work !!
But agreed with Dav (again), no tears shed from me over DON, he was a man out of his depth that blatently lied to us, THE FANS, as did Heys, for which I will never forgive either of them.
Words just cant be said for the legend that is Ilyas Khan. He will forever be my hero.
I will leave the complicated share holder/ issues to more knowlegable people than myself, but all we need now is that smug cardboard prat to be removed from the lounge on matchdays and the story is complete as far as im concerned.
Agreed the 1st priority is the team and to make sure Coley has everything he needs, but secondly the ground MUST be sorted ASAP in my opinion. A new stadium would be excellent, somewhere along the lines of Buron Albion's ground would do me fine
Oh and as for the game, gutted I missed it, but well done Mr Mcconville, not a bad way to silence the critics (including me) !!
Sky Sports Story to come this week.
ON STANLEY ON
Gutted I wasnt there to witness the Crown last night, bloody work !!
But agreed with Dav (again), no tears shed from me over DON, he was a man out of his depth that blatently lied to us, THE FANS, as did Heys, for which I will never forgive either of them.
Words just cant be said for the legend that is Ilyas Khan. He will forever be my hero.
I will leave the complicated share holder/ issues to more knowlegable people than myself, but all we need now is that smug cardboard prat to be removed from the lounge on matchdays and the story is complete as far as im concerned.
Agreed the 1st priority is the team and to make sure Coley has everything he needs, but secondly the ground MUST be sorted ASAP in my opinion. A new stadium would be excellent, somewhere along the lines of Buron Albion's ground would do me fine
Oh and as for the game, gutted I missed it, but well done Mr Mcconville, not a bad way to silence the critics (including me) !!
Sky Sports Story to come this week.
ON STANLEY ON
A new stadium is the future,simple as, have no doubt it will materialize at some future date, whats required now is fer trust to be rebuilt between the club @ public/ business, handled right i'm certain it can be done,Rob Heys has one hell of a job, but sure he can achieve it,with help, that is vital,i'm sure J.C. @ J.B. will have a great boost when the dust settles n that can only be positive fer the club, what has happened has restored my faith in the Club as a whole,already had it in coley n the lads.
I'm just glad that the pantomime of goodies, baddies, factions and frictions is over.
2010/11 is going to be one special season for our club. I can feel it in me water.
Bring on the Geordies.
(6-0? Pah. That was in their own back yard against losers from Brum. Wait 'til we get 'em on t'Crown!)
2010/11 is going to be one special season for our club. I can feel it in me water.
Bring on the Geordies.
(6-0? Pah. That was in their own back yard against losers from Brum. Wait 'til we get 'em on t'Crown!)
I think it is great that DON has left the club, however it is imperative that we are rid of EW to truly move the club forward. In my eyes if that means issuing 1million new shares at 1pence each then it would be worth doing if only to bring his shareholding down to nothing.
DON was always on a hiding to nothing the minute he started lying about the HMRC fiasco. To be fair to him though he did put a decent infastructure together for the day to day running including bring Lew back. I feel that we should use this to our advantage and make sure that we keep these key personnel to keep moving forward especially Lew who has done a great job in raising the clubs profile for the retail side of the business.
As for the future, its looks a lot rosier than it did 24 hours ago. It is great that steps are to be taken to help the fans have a say in running the club, this is the first step on a long journey to the promised land! I think that we should increase JC's playing budget but I hope that the long-term strategy is to ensure natural growth for the club to help increase money available through commercial viability instead of Iylas having to help the club out. I think this wont happen overnight but it is achievable in the next 5 years. There is certainly an opportunity available to exploit the cheaper end of the market, people will be looking more to get value for money during this difficult time as they will have less money available for enjoyment so to speak.
The easiest things to do straightaway is to get a ground sponsor on board and perhaps look to buy a supporters coach so that away travel can be made more accessible at a reduced price. This may encourage more fans to go to more away games. I would also end the shambles involving the pricing structure of tickets on the gate being £2 more expensive. I feel that this is something that will discourage walk ons and roaming supporters, I think starting a loyalty scheme and a refer a friend scheme may help to increase gates and spending in the club shop. Looking further afield I feel that the Lincoln game would be a perfect time to offer the season ticket holders of other clubs entry for £5. This would ensure a crowd of around 2500 to 3000 perhaps. One final thing could be to sponsor the clock, whereby each person pays a fixed amount of money to sponsor one minute of a game and if the first goal is scored in their minute then they receive a cash prize. If nobody scores then the money would be rolled over to the next game.
One final thing is just to say thanks to Ilyas to giving the supporters real reason to be hopeful for the future.
DON was always on a hiding to nothing the minute he started lying about the HMRC fiasco. To be fair to him though he did put a decent infastructure together for the day to day running including bring Lew back. I feel that we should use this to our advantage and make sure that we keep these key personnel to keep moving forward especially Lew who has done a great job in raising the clubs profile for the retail side of the business.
As for the future, its looks a lot rosier than it did 24 hours ago. It is great that steps are to be taken to help the fans have a say in running the club, this is the first step on a long journey to the promised land! I think that we should increase JC's playing budget but I hope that the long-term strategy is to ensure natural growth for the club to help increase money available through commercial viability instead of Iylas having to help the club out. I think this wont happen overnight but it is achievable in the next 5 years. There is certainly an opportunity available to exploit the cheaper end of the market, people will be looking more to get value for money during this difficult time as they will have less money available for enjoyment so to speak.
The easiest things to do straightaway is to get a ground sponsor on board and perhaps look to buy a supporters coach so that away travel can be made more accessible at a reduced price. This may encourage more fans to go to more away games. I would also end the shambles involving the pricing structure of tickets on the gate being £2 more expensive. I feel that this is something that will discourage walk ons and roaming supporters, I think starting a loyalty scheme and a refer a friend scheme may help to increase gates and spending in the club shop. Looking further afield I feel that the Lincoln game would be a perfect time to offer the season ticket holders of other clubs entry for £5. This would ensure a crowd of around 2500 to 3000 perhaps. One final thing could be to sponsor the clock, whereby each person pays a fixed amount of money to sponsor one minute of a game and if the first goal is scored in their minute then they receive a cash prize. If nobody scores then the money would be rolled over to the next game.
One final thing is just to say thanks to Ilyas to giving the supporters real reason to be hopeful for the future.
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As has already been said, It does not matter how many shares or what percentage EW owns, they are worth nowt when the club is in reality owned by its creditors! However, with the new share issue, whoever buys them will dilute the shareholding of the cardboard one!
Long may it continue.
Agreed, but as regards charging £2 extra for walk ons, I'm not sure this is happening yet! The loyalty scheme is a good idea and no doubt will be picked up by the club when either Lew or Rob or whoever reads the board.
Nice idea, again lets hope someone from the CEO downward reads this and takes it on board at the club.
and finally - so says every true fan of Accrington Stanley.
Bring on the Toon - never looked forward to a match sooooo much
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