Good suggestion. Will follow up.
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Drain cover
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Good suggestion. Will follow up.
No need to Graham, LCC are already replacing the stolen ones with non metallic ones. I was speaking to the engineers when they replaced a stolen one behind my house. They say non metallic on them as well.
The stupid thing is they never order enough spare ones so they have to come out and do the dangerous cone thing, then come back later and drop the plastic ones in. The only drop in the hole and have chamfered sides to hold them in place.
It would safe a lot of time and money to do the job "right first time" a methodology used in business for many years, time to catch up LCC
Perhaps what they need to do is replace all the metal ones with these none metallic ones?
Better that LCC use the scrap value of the metal ones to pay for the replacements than some thief should profit and leave them with the full bill of replacing them.
Perhaps what they need to do is replace all the metal ones with these none metallic ones?
Better that LCC use the scrap value of the metal ones to pay for the replacements than some thief should profit and leave them with the full bill of replacing them.
I was told by the chaps doing them they cost £80 each and even some of those were stolen by mistake even though they say non metallic on them. Not sure the scrap value of one drain cover but I would guess at under a fiver, maybe only a couple of quid each.
What we need is for the Police to do their job and lock up the thieves to prevent it happening.
I think the problem there is that most thieves can neither read or write.
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Even if they can't read or write, they should be able to tell by the weight that its not metal.
Retlaw.
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Maybe there's a market for recycled plastic in China.
Here you go a couple of pictures showing the grid in place and lifted out showing how thick it is. In the second picture you can see the inside of the grid has rotted away and the whole thing needs replacing.
The replacement is a very poor fit and any kid could lift it out as nothing holds it in place. This would leave a dangerous hold again.
The replacement is a very poor fit and any kid could lift it out as nothing holds it in place. This would leave a dangerous hold again.
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Just an update on the cause of the original post, after 12 days ----- and still there is a gaping hole! I sent an e-mail and received a reply saying that if the problem hasn't been resolved within 10 days, I can send a second e-mail for an update on what is happening
Early this afternoon, a yellow council open truck slowly drove along Bridge st. with a council worker hanging out of the passenger door window scrutinising the pavement. Unfortunately, they didn't stop
"Hole guvner, wot hole? we didn't see no 'ole!"
Update on Surrey St, another drain cover disappeared overnight, thats 3 now in Surrey St and the 2 still in Alice St.
Congratulations Graham on a speech that accurately spells out what is happening all around us and I agree with the solutions that you have put forward.
Early this afternoon, a yellow council open truck slowly drove along Bridge st. with a council worker hanging out of the passenger door window scrutinising the pavement. Unfortunately, they didn't stop
"Hole guvner, wot hole? we didn't see no 'ole!"Update on Surrey St, another drain cover disappeared overnight, thats 3 now in Surrey St and the 2 still in Alice St.
Congratulations Graham on a speech that accurately spells out what is happening all around us and I agree with the solutions that you have put forward.
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Don't know the going rate at today's prices but you are talking well in excess of £100-00 per ton for scrap iron, doesn't take many covers to make up a ton in weight.
Just googled for prices being offered and I think you would agree Neil that a heavy drain cover is worth a bit more than a couple of quid...(The lines have gone haywire in pasting but the info is there)
Ferrous scrap metal prices: £ per tonne
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
0A plate & girder 209 199 195 195 195 205
No 1 old steel scrap 189 180 170 170 170 180
No 2 old steel scrap 189 180 170 170 170 170
4A low residual bales 209 200 195 195 195 205
4C new production bales 209 200 195 195 195 205
light iron 209 180 160 160 160 170
7B mixed steel turnings 210 190 170 170 170 180
8B mixed steel cuttings 199 190 185 185 185 195
foundry heavy cast iron 204 185 180 180 180 190
No 9 cast 204 185 175 175 175 185
No 10 light cast 204 185 170 170 170 180
11 cast iron borings 190 175 165 165 165 175
12A new production heavy steel scrap 209 190 185 185 185 195
Here you go a couple of pictures showing the grid in place and lifted out showing how thick it is. In the second picture you can see the inside of the grid has rotted away and the whole thing needs replacing.
The replacement is a very poor fit and any kid could lift it out as nothing holds it in place. This would leave a dangerous hold again.
Neil....is that Garinda's brain lying down there in the drain?
If so, I've written a poem about it:
Garinda lost his brain
Down an Ossy drain
Neil took a piccy
And I took the mickey
....another classic, what!
Congratulations Graham on a speech that accurately spells out what is happening all around us and I agree with the solutions that you have put forward.
I agree with what he said but we had the same problem when the last Government were in and they did nothing either.
I still say its a Police issue and thay have all the powers they need to deal with theft
So why are they not doing?
Here's a good 'un:
40 Gypsies arrive at the Pearly Gates in their Transit vans and caravans.
St Peter goes into the gatehouse and phones up God, saying "I've got 40 travellers here. Can I let them in?"
God says "We are over quota on Gypsies. Go back to the gates and tell them to choose between them which are the 12 most worthy and I will let a dozen in".
Less than a minute later St Peter is on the phone to God again. "They've gone", he tells God.
"What?" says God, "All 40 of them?"
"No, ....The Gates".
40 Gypsies arrive at the Pearly Gates in their Transit vans and caravans.
St Peter goes into the gatehouse and phones up God, saying "I've got 40 travellers here. Can I let them in?"
God says "We are over quota on Gypsies. Go back to the gates and tell them to choose between them which are the 12 most worthy and I will let a dozen in".
Less than a minute later St Peter is on the phone to God again. "They've gone", he tells God.
"What?" says God, "All 40 of them?"
"No, ....The Gates".
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Well two more been nicked yest at some point next rd to mine, phoned LCC who within a couple hrs had come & put cones over the holes, what I would like to know is are the police doing regular spot checks on scrap yards? There was an article in the lancs telegraph this wk or last saying a load of cable had been found at a scrap yard, but how many grate covers or manhole covers have ever been recovered, its about time some serious prosecutions were made against scrap yard owners.
Theres a couple missing now at the top of Sandy Lane right near St Anne's Primary School and I also saw one missing from the road that leads from Sandy Lane down past Bejamin Hargreaves whilst walking past on my way down to town from school. This is a very busy area with lots of children walking to school as well as using cars. Sooner or later there are going to be some fairly serious accidents as in my opinin an upturned orange cone stuck down the hole (invisible to the eye until you get within 5 foot of it) is not an adequate short term solution!.
a good sledge hammer and you can smash cast iron and throw it in with other stuff
They had this problem in Germany and their way was to just replace them with plastic ones as they were stolen.
It may be a good idea to get the jump on thieves and start replacing what are left with plastic ones and weighing in the removed ones so they at least get some money back rather than nothing?
aslo stopping cars or vans that only have two people in yet their back end is dragging on the floor could be a good start especially in teh early hours of teh morning when this is probably happening
