Drummer

Ber999T said:
Right before there is some nastiness said lets just get things in context please.

Both groups of supporters want the same thing i.e. ASFC to do well and be supported (YES???)

Some people have been long-term members of the club (not saying OSC just the club)

What on earth are you talking about.. this has nothing to do with ultras/osc .. please dont take it down that rd , not even a hint of it :(
 
Bagpuss said:
Come on adnit it you don't like the new breed of supporters and wish we where back in

I dont agree with anything else said about you TM .. I think your right to take offence.. theres more people like you who dont sing and would prefer to concentrate on the game.. and you have probbaly done more for the club (I dont just mean turning up to watch) than 70% of the ultras put together...

But I think he is right with this bit... your not the most welcoming to new supporters... you where one of the ones that gave me a hard time .. If everyone was as welcoming as you then most of us wouldnt be here... people like Jimbo T hornblower, JEFF, loweiy and the like who welcome and encourage us are the ones that keep the club alive... people who discourage new supporters could kill the club if they ever became the majority...

Lets all do our own thing and not try to force our way on others :)
 
Fair enough Kipax. However, our banter was nothing more than a wind-up to me anyway. You're always saying that you don't take the messageboard seriously and that it's not like real life. I agree with that and whenever we've had dealings face-to-face, we've always got on ok.

I would love to see more new supporters on the Stanley. Nothing (much) gives me a bigger thrill than being on the ground with a big crowd and I'd love to have a big bank of supporters chanting on matchday, as they did at Stockport on Friday night. I'll chat with anyone on the ground, whether they've been coming 5 minutes or 40 years and i give them the respect they deserve.

However, I draw the line when people start measuring a fan's commitment to the club and their level of support by how loud they shout, or by the prominence of their position on the ground, in the media, etc. We all support our team in our own way. Just because people aren't shouting/singing constantly doesn't make them any less commited to the cause.

I admit that some of my postings on here may have been interpreted as negative towards new fans, but the majority of those postings were very much tongue in cheek. Similar to your position, I don't take the messageboard that seriously, and I'll chat with anyone on the ground, be they a new supporter or an established face. :)
 
Tin Monkey said:
However, I draw the line when people start measuring a fan's commitment to the club and their level of support by how loud they shout, or by the prominence of their position on the ground, in the media, etc. We all support our team in our own way. Just because people aren't shouting/singing constantly doesn't make them any less commited to the cause.:)

Absoloiutly 100% agree and I doubt anyone is brain dead enough to argue your point... lets all do it our way.. each to his own..:)
 
It doesn't matter how anyone supports ASFC just as long as we do! But as an committed "singer" I'd like the rest of the ground to at least appear "passionate". At some grounds if their winger skins the full back the main stand will clap, encourage, cheer, raise a fist. I've seen Toddy skin the full back recently & you get nothing from our mainstand. This I'm sure is what Coley criticises about the people over his shoulder.:)

Also at County, fans who usually sing sat on their arses because we were on an open terrace "up against" that huge stand in front of us. So? I'm all for fans who don't wanna sing not singing, no problem. We should have bounced around that away end in our own special way as normal. I'd love it if some fans would lose their inhibitions & let their hair down but hey thats only my opinion.:)

I also noticed at County that a few fans wouldn't join in the encouragement but would stand to scream "Roberts you w inker pass it etc etc". Its only my opnion but thats what we don't need 4 games into a new league.:mad:

Whether singing or talking lets keep attending- hundreds didn't on Friday. Listen we had more at Halifax, more at Southport, more at Morecambe. I just don't get whats goin on this season. Very strange.:confused:

BTW TM, we gonna keep plugging away with the press coverage. Hopefully the more we do or try to do the more people may just get "interested". Genuinely, nobody is after any personal gain. If I thought ASFC fans were thinking that I'd just sit in the main stand & wait to be entertained:)
 
pipinfort said:
definately agree with that one kipax, used in context its great for drumming (no pun intended lol) up atmosphere and works a treat.......................whereas inane constant banging is just plain annoying.

We've been telling Matt that for ages & he's slowly getting the message, remember he's just a young lad:)
 
I agree Jase, even just a clap and a bit of encouragement from the main stand can make a difference if our winger skins their fullbacks, at the moment we don't have that but i'd also like to see it happen..
 
To contradict everything... I do recall shotgun walking up and down in front of the main stand banging a (smaller less deafening) drum and the whole main stand joined in. So thats one up for a drum used correctly and the main stand :)
 
Totally agree Jase, Im not asking anyone to sit in the main stand and start to sing and shout and bounce around, but a clap every now and then wouldnt go a miss would it?

Everybody knows when the fans sing, clap, (make a noise) the players get a lift, and we want FES a a place where away teams think "oh no not stanley again"

Just a clap Main Stand, A clap :D
 
KIPAX said:
First time I went on stanley there was half a stand and I stood on the terrace thats now the other half.... i think it (the terrace half) had a roof... pretty sure it did.. but not 100%

It did have a roof, it's not been put aside for a rainy day, has it? :D

I think that's where the moaning mentality was incubated, shouting at Russell was their favourite pastime, can't actually abide the stand side, but each to his own.

Personally, at games, I seem to go catatonic, but am actually using a Zen technique to channel my energy. People might have noticed Leam and Toddy have better halves when on the Whinney Hill side, it was no coincidence Leam was sent off on the stand side last season, (transmitting inner calm is a side effect). Again, each to his own.

The official line from the FA on attendances is that no analysis is worthwhile till well into October, or as Jack Barratt put it, "there's no panic, it's still Accy holidays."
 
There's a few comments on here about people in the main stand and I agree that there should be more noise coming from there but don't tar us all with the same brush. Me and my family always sit in the stand and regularly go home with sore throats from shouting, I've also been known to sing in there although I admit I have had a few funny looks from those around in the past :) As for not being as many at away games, I would have loved to have been at Stockport on Friday but simply could not afford to go there and be at the Notts Forrest game on Monday, had to choose one or the other and the cup game won.
 
Yes bring back the drum, certainly the atmosphere is not the same without it. At Stockport they had a drum and plenty of noise. Its no coincidence that there is still no bar at the clayton end and this has an effect on the lack of noise/singing.
 
I've only been watching Stanley for a few years now and only get to about 10 games in the season, mainly away, as I live in Somerset. I've always enjoyed the atmosphere at every game and always get goose bumps as the team comes out.
I know the Fraser Eagle Stadium isn't the best looking ground around, but again I love going and always end up meeting and chatting to new people. It really is a friendly club!!
The Drum, I love it! Although can understand how it could annoy people. I've been close to it at a few games and ended up with ringing in my ears.
Everyone has their own way of supporting the team, nothings going to change that. We're all there to support the team and hopefully see them win. On that we're all together!!

ps. Managed to persuade my wife it was a good idea to drive up to Stockport on Friday. Longest journey ever, do'nt think we went faster than 40mph all the way. But well worth it just to see that goal.

Hope to see a few of you at the next game, I need to start learning some of the songs!! Any chance of some words, there were some posted last season, but I can't find them.

Take Care
Worzel:)
 
Tin Monkey said:
You really are an obnoxious character aren't you? Not only have you made a series of false accusations on here (claiming false recordings of gates, etc), but you are way off the mark once again. I suggest you think very carefully before posting your drivel once again.

Out of order, PM sent as I refuse to get into a slanging match.:)
 
Bagpuss said:
Out of order, PM sent as I refuse to get into a slanging match.:)

Couldn't really understand what your point is and I think putting things into perspective would be a good thing, but we'll leave it at that as I really can't be bothered.
 
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