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It seems that sore losers are again fighting in London Streets...the news reports say they Antifa demonstrators....now I thought that Antifa stood for 'antifascist'....yet these people are hypocritically exhibiting fascist tendencies....we have to believe what they believe....we have to follow their ideologies....any other ideologies will not be accepted or tolerated

Like the remainers before them(they probably are remainers...Labour voters, it seems that London is one of the few places that Labour still has support) they are denying the democratically elected government....voted for by the majority(in a first past the post system).
It appears that thuggery is what characterises these people...not good is it?
 
We DO need a credible opposition though - otherwise the ruling party will just take if or granted that what they do goes without question.

Labour needs to start by going back to proper 'grassroots' - they could start with insisting that any potential candidate MUST live in the constituency. Labour has been far too guilty of putting up people who fit their 'correct' criteria into seats they know nothing about.
 
Of course we do....that is the way our political system works best....balanced like a pair of scales.

The salient word in your first sentence is 'credible'...and that is what has been missing from the equation.

Also, I feel that Parliamentarians should be dignified. When you abuse your opponent, you immediately lose the argument.

I think this last election campaign has been one of(if not the most) nasty and vitriolic ever.

I think much of this nastiness boiled over from Brexit....which polarised the country.
That said it was a democratic vote that was denied by those who should uphold democratic process. They did not do what they were supposed to do, they tried to subvert the issue for their own purposes.

There was much manipulation of parliamentary process and the perpetrator of this was someone that is put in position to be impartial....the Speaker of the house.
A lot of blame for the nasty underhand tactics has to go to John Bercow.
In days of old he would have found his head on a pike....
 
I forgot to add that I also agree with your observation that to become an electable party again, the Labour Party needs to go back to what it was before Tony Blair 'stuffed it up'.
He was not modernising it, he was turning it into 'Conservative Lite'.
 
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I am sick of seeing the likes of Rylance, Cumberbatch, Hugh Grant, preaching and pontificating for Labour....and not forgetting silly Lily Allen.....
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Ah, the great???? & the gormless! Can't abide them especially the allen bint despicable creature, still they've all been served a goodly portion of Crimbo delicacies in the last few days Stuffing & Pie (Humble) to be precise! :D
 
An interesting and apposite observation.
If a journalist from the other side of the pond can see this, then why can't those in the executive of the Labour Party.

I guess the answer has to be that they can see it, but like Nelson they put the telescope up to the blind eye.

As to the last bit of the article about Boris being elected on a Brexit ticket, so what will he do once that is sorted.

I think the answer to that will very much depend on how Brexit pans out.
What I do know is that those in Brussels who have been so insulting, rude, scathing etc may just have to rethink their approach now that the swamp has been drained.

It may now be, that with a majority government things may take on a different hue.
I would certainly be thinking of repealing the legislation that tied the PM's hands.

I would also be looking at the influence that the judiciary have on Parliamentary process.
 
Thats a perfect example of how stupid and deluded CORBYN is, the clown has destroyed the Labour Party.
 
To be fair Cashy, the demolition started with TB...Gordon Brown continued it and it went from there.

To be a credible electable party the manifesto has to be believable(even though most of us realise that it does not constitute any kind of real promise).
The Labour manifesto was not credible and it would have meant financial ruin and our children and their children paying back debts for the whole of their lives.
The politics were those of sixth form ideologists....with no visible means of paying for the giveaways.
It was not about fairness....you do not make the poor rich by making the rich poor.
And all those moneyed celebs might have been singing a different tune had Corbyn been elected(except most of these do not pay their share of taxes as their money is kept in offshore accounts...that is why their pontificating is so irritating)
The big problem with Corbyn is his past connections with terrorists and his reluctance to apologise or distance himself from these organisations.
The Anti semitism was also a factor...and the thuggery of Momentum.
Corbyn had zero leadership skills and it was felt that he was really just a puppet and that John McDonnell(another whose past does not bear scrutiny) was pulling the strings.

How many ways do you need to tell a leader that their popularity is zero?
He did not listen, the party did not listen....this election was all about letting those in parliament know that we felt sidelined...disposable....that we were angry at how democracy had been dismissed.

I think that some of them might have got the message...but it was written on a P45.
 
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They ain't got a clue have they - Angela bloody Rayner as deputy leader ? Was chatting to a friend who is a Tranmere supporter who said Labour need to do what we done after dropping out the league - sack the manager and get rid of the team who disgraced us so badly and start again building up from scratch.
 
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