Hyndburn Borough Council are big on equality according to this story in the LT Hyndburn Council in new equality drive (From Lancashire Telegraph)
Equal Opportunities
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I'm pleased to see there is at least one gentleman left in the world...No doubt someone will let me know, but I so far haven't really seen equal opportunities.
We have laws in place to make sure that adverts are equal in their opportunity.
But are we equal?
There seem to be talents that females master better than the male and also the opposite.
However, this paper chasing world of ours that claims we shouldn't allow a woman to be a woman, a man to be a man, seems to interfere with the two sexes actually getting on with each other.
As soon as I open a door for a woman, I'm being patronising, as soon as she shows her independance because she doesn't need a door opening for her, she's being a threat to masculinity.
In actual fact there are differences and as old fashioned as it may seem, I would rather open a door for a 'Lady', than leave it to slap in her face, but sometimes we are left with the man wondering will she be insulted? and the woman wondering, will he be insulted?
Well let's put these thoughts and differences to one side and realise,
It's so much nicer if a man can treat a woman as a lady than to have her insist on 'complete' independance.
You colonials are so crude. I'll bet you drive a Cadillac.
Of course I do ... Except for the winter months when I drive an old, beat up Chev Suburban ... a big V8, 4 wheel drive with a winch on the front ... great for busting down snow banks
I'm just a crude V8 kinda guy .... I never got into those 'green' pork and bean can things. Of course, we don't pay as much for gas as the poor sods in the UK do.
I envy you. I'd love to have one of those monsters from the 50's and 60's but I couldn't afford to drive it to a petrol station,never mind fill it up!
“We need to ensure that we are not unwittingly discriminating by doing something that disadvantages to benefit one group of people over another.”
What a big buch of hollyhocks!
Since we already have laws on our statute books, to prevent discrimination on every conceivable ground, do we really need all this guff in local government?
If Hyndburn Borough Council carry out their business to the letter of the law, they'll be discriminating against no one.
I wonder how much time, and money's being put in to this, in order for H.B.C. to achievie 'excellence in providing an equal service' status?
I'm begining to have flashbacks, that I'm still living in loony Lambeth, or Liverpool again.
Let's hope we get a nice framed award.
Showing just how pathetically liberal we are.
The theory of "Equal opportunities" in itself is a load of codswallop, we will never ever be equal, whether it's about men or woman, race & colour, physical ability or intelligence sexual preferences. We are all different regardless how much the bleaters & whiners try to ram it down our throats, in fact the more it's forced through the more it's resented.
Automatically by requiring certain qualities or skills you're already discriminating in theory, why can't the whiners & those insisting just let things lie ? Just accept some folk are better than others at certain things & that is just the way life is & will always be unless we start "engineering people", so we're all equal. Sanctimonious crap !
Automatically by requiring certain qualities or skills you're already discriminating in theory, why can't the whiners & those insisting just let things lie ? Just accept some folk are better than others at certain things & that is just the way life is & will always be unless we start "engineering people", so we're all equal. Sanctimonious crap !
I also think it's very stupid for our top universities to have certain quotas to fill, making sure they have a given intake of students from the state system.
Undergraduates should be given their place because they are the best on offer.
If there are failings in state education, address those issues, and therefore ensure those pupils have an equal chance of winning a place at a good university.
Undergraduates should be given their place because they are the best on offer.
If there are failings in state education, address those issues, and therefore ensure those pupils have an equal chance of winning a place at a good university.
Which brings us back to the original post about the appointment of an anaesthetist.
If I'm going to be put under, I want the person doing it to know what they are doing. If they are there to satisfy some quota or other, how do I know they can tell the difference between Nitrous Oxide and Carbon Dioxide?
A bit like that film Green For Danger with Megs Jenkins as the baddie.....
This argument of yours is drifting away from "equal opportunities". PCism really bugs my ass ... but, you seem to be going way off base when you assume that someone hired through an "equal opportunities" ad will be incompetent. I can't see any logical path (live long and prosper, by the way
) by which you can reach this conclusion
What you are suggesting is that affirmative action programs will lead to the hiring of incompetents, that your plane will be piloted by a blind lesbian merely because there were so few blind lesbians piloting planes, and that balance had to be acheived. Is it your argument that incompetents are being hired because of "equal opportunities"? That soon, planes will be falling out of the sky because the pilot is a blind lesbian, and the co-pilot is an octogenarian with alzheimers (we can't have ageism)? When I think of affirmative action, I don't think of the pc garbage mouthed by granola "visionaries"; I think of it as being used to address imbalances that would not be resolved without some kind of government action. A good example of systemic imbalance is that women are still being paid less than men for doing the same bloody job.
That is not always the case Eric, which a resent report verifiedThis argument of yours is drifting away from "equal opportunities". PCism really bugs my ass ... but, you seem to be going way off base when you assume that someone hired through an "equal opportunities" ad will be incompetent. I can't see any logical path (live long and prosper, by the way
maybe when you've been discriminated against then you can turn round and have a go ... but until you have been you dont know what its like to be told that you were the best person for the job ... even over qualified ... and he'd hire you like a shot ... BUT because you have epilepsy then he wasnt .... oh and being told that to your face by the interviewer ... its not nice ...
That is not always the case Eric, which a resent report verified
That's not my point. We are not talking about what some recent unnamed report has "verified" .... the thread is based on the report linked in the opening post. Nowhere in it is there any suggestion that incompetents are to be hired merely because they fit a particular profile. Look at what happened ... some guy used the term "usual rubbish", possibly because, like many of us, he considers that, like the warnings on cigarette packs, having to publish regulations every time an ad goes out is pc "rubbish" ... and this got published. As if none of us is aware that all jobs are open to qualified applicants regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation etc. And that's it. And because of the pc climate, this necessitates some unctuous bitch from PR, getting up on her hind legs and issuing ass-covering statements. To attack the whole affirmative action system, much of which is positive, based on such flimsy "evidence" is ... well, dumb ... and it serves no purpose other than to allow folks to sound off with their biases.
Oh, I forgot, I also ride a Harley Davidson ... pics are available in the Old Motors thread
