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st06nc2 said:
they are attacking police officers,
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And as such, the Military (or what's left of it) should be brought in to assist the local constabulary. Just like in NI through the "troubles" in the 70's. 80's & 90's, after making the acquaintance with a few lumping great rubber bullets & an Infantry section "Snatch Squad" the gob-sheites would quickly learn the error of their ways!
 
DaveinGermany said:
And as such, the Military (or what's left of it) should be brought in to assist the local constabulary. Just like in NI through the "troubles" in the 70's. 80's & 90's, after making the acquaintance with a few lumping great rubber bullets & an Infantry section "Snatch Squad" the gob-sheites would quickly learn the error of their ways!
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Stuff rubber bullets, give them live ammo and cull every single one of them
 
Neil said:
They are for keeping people in touch, age has nothing to do with it
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Age has everything to do with it Neil.
You see most young folk welded to their smart phones.
I can keep in touch without being on FB, twitter or Whatsapp.
I use e-mails, I talk on the phone and the best of all is sitting down face to face with a nice cuppa...you can't beat keeping in touch like that.
 
Enquiry into the grenfell Fire is starting to get interesting, labour mayor Sadiq Khan show as taking money, a bribe perhaps, the Kensington labour mp sat on the board that approved the dangerous renovations, and she also voted against spending 184k on fitting sprinklers
 
st06nc2 said:
Enquiry into the grenfell Fire is starting to get interesting, labour mayor Sadiq Khan show as taking money, a bribe perhaps, the Kensington labour mp sat on the board that approved the dangerous renovations, and she also voted against spending 184k on fitting sprinklers
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I also understand that on 7 June 2005 a bill was passed in Parliament that gave an exemption to Tower Blocks built before 2007 needing to have sprinkler systems installed - at that time it was a Labour Government, not sure of the make up of the local council, but JC voted for the exemption.
 
Barrie Yates said:
I also understand that on 7 June 2005 a bill was passed in Parliament that gave an exemption to Tower Blocks built before 2007 needing to have sprinkler systems installed - at that time it was a Labour Government, not sure of the make up of the local council, but JC voted for the exemption.
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Is that true?
 
the block of flats was run not by any council but by KCTMO. This body
is made up of 8 TENANTS, 4 councilors and 3 independent members.

2 - Labour hold the seat that the block is situated in.

3 - Labour run the London Council who manage the under funded London Fire Service

4 - incidentally Emma Coad the sitting Labour MP for that ward also sat on the KCTMO.

5 - the advise to stay put which Sadiq Khan has been so vocal about was given by the London Fire Service.

6 - the decision to change contractors during the refurb was made by KCTMO.

7 - the decision not to spend a paltry £138k on fitting sprinklers again KCTMO.

8 - the decision to create ALMO organisation such as the KCTMO was made under the Right To Manage legislation passed in 2002
as part of the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act.

9 - this was put in place to give leasehold tenants a greater say and the ability to self manage, which has clearly proven to be a disaster.

10 - and which Govt was in a charge when this law was passed? Yup you guessed it Labour.

11 - Sadiq Khan as mayor of London Produced a report to say that the fire service did not need further funding.

12 -Emma Coad elected Labour MP was on the board of the Tenant Management group who are being accused of not listening to tenants.
 
the above information does imply that Labour are up to their necks in it and shoudlnt be pointing political point scoring fingers at the current government

the way jermy corbyn has used these poor dead children and other lost ones to score political points is sickening

instead of basking in the extra votes he tricked people in to giving MPs across the country they should be demanding he step down and put someone as leader who will gain power in a honest and decent way

i hope our MP still wants rid of him and many more start to see him for what he is also
 
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There is a lot in the media and on news channels which is uncomplimentary to Theresa May right now, but whatever she had said or done in respect of this tragedy would never have been enough.

As for the rehousing of the families made homeless,it has been noted that Jeremy Corbyn has three homes(he can only live in one at a time) he should offer two of his homes to those who have been made homeless.
Many MP's of all persuasions have residences in London...they should also give up these for the rehousing of families.
In the interim,they can use hotels while they need to be in the city for parliamentary business.

As for tower blocks around the country...every single one of them should be inspected by the fire service and if they do not meet fire safety standards then they should be made to comply.
If this cannot be done effectively (and cost should not be the main issue)then they should be demolished.
Most of them are eyesores anyway
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
.......If this cannot be done effectively (and cost should not be the main issue)then they should be demolished.
Most of them are eyesores anyway
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all towns and cities were saddled with these structures in the swinging 60,s. were heralded as the future to clear out all the slums in the areas. a few years down the line a new slum was created as a lot of tenants got out as quickly as they could like my family. like the concrete shopping centres they are a blot on the landscape and quicker they go into history the happier i,ll be.
 
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Yes, you are right Monkey Hanger.
One of my colleagues lived in one of these monstrosities.
She had a terrible time with those residents above her.
Eventually she saved up and bought a little cottage...she said the difference was amazing.

That the government in power in 2007 gave exemption to Sprinkler systems in tower blocks says much about them too.
They would be aware that these blocks were homes to those who relied on social housing.
The very people that Labour are supposed to care about and represent.
That they put them in danger, needs to be repeated and highlighted at every opportunity so that people can know the extent of their dishonesty
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
Yes, you are right Monkey Hanger.
One of my colleagues lived in one of these monstrosities.
She had a terrible time with those residents above her.
Eventually she saved up and bought a little cottage...she said the difference was amazing.

That the government in power in 2007 gave exemption to Sprinkler systems in tower blocks says much about them too.
They would be aware that these blocks were homes to those who relied on social housing.
The very people that Labour are supposed to care about and represent.
That they put them in danger, needs to be repeated and highlighted at every opportunity so that people can know the extent of their dishonesty
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Thats correct, yet many suckers believe the rubbish Corbyn is spouting.:(
 
Barrie Yates said:
I also understand that on 7 June 2005 a bill was passed in Parliament that gave an exemption to Tower Blocks built before 2007 needing to have sprinkler systems installed - at that time it was a Labour Government, not sure of the make up of the local council, but JC voted for the exemption.
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Buildings before 2013 are exempt fro having sprinklers fitted
 
channel 4 and the BBC are hell bent on promoting corbyn and bashing theresa may and facts are not a requirement when doing so by either of them

you kinda expect it from channel4 but not the BBC,,

thing is though its an ex labour guy whos pulling strings at the BBC now and he is far from impartial which is one of the conditions of the BBC been allowed a license fee
 
accyman said:
channel 4 and the BBC are hell bent on promoting corbyn and bashing theresa may and facts are not a requirement when doing so by either of them

you kinda expect it from channel4 but not the BBC,,

thing is though its an ex labour guy whos pulling strings at the BBC now and he is far from impartial which is one of the conditions of the BBC been allowed a license fee
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He was an Ex Shadow Minister so what can yeh expect.
 
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