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i to watch the border progs, also the customs etc in britain, they catch n illegal n then cannot deport em, if they just say "I Lost My Passport" so then the good ole british public pays to keep em.:rolleyes: if that aint rubbin us noses in it, i don't know what is?:mad: but then these people aint fanatics, just another reason folk are so pished off.
 
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garinda said:
The totally lax security we have is another bug bear.

Nevermind the open borders across Europe policy, with people who've never paid a penny, now able to move here and claim social benefits.

An illegal immigrant and failed asylum seeeker, kills a child in Blackburn, in a hit and run 'accident', and is still here, and now has the right to remain here?

What a total load of Jackson Pollocks!

Sometime last year I wrote about a film about the Morecambe Bay cockle pickers tragedy. The very few survivors rescued, all illegal immigrants, were held in an unsecured detention centre....and all ran off. Meaning there were no witnesses to help prosecute the people traffickers who'd brought them here.

If it wasn't so saddeningly real, it'd be almost funny.
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Yep but it just about sums up our "security levels" in this country where security is "tight". Calais and any other borders are laughable to me(although the resources do their best). Perhaps the powers that be be they Tory,Labour, Liberal or any other party might look into why getting into the UK is preferable to staying in any of the other EU countries they have passed through on their way here??? The way the benefits system works would not be anything to do with it would it????
 
cashman said:
i to watch the border progs, also the customs etc in britain, they catch n illegal n then cannot deport em, if they just say "I Lost My Passport" so then the good ole british public pays to keep em.:rolleyes: if that aint rubbin us noses in it, i don't know what is?:mad: but then these people aint fanatics, just another reason folk are so pished off.
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Sorry Cashy but you always say "say it as you see it", well watching these programmes I see far to many trying to get entry into the UK without honest reasons, and yes I do wonder about all the colleges and universities that our passport controls don't know about. Time we all opened our eyes to the threats around us IMHO
 
Not wanting to get party political, but after criticising the last three governments, the major opposition party seems just as scared of not being politically correct, and afraid of being seen as intolerant.

'Five months ago, a Tory candidate in Birmingham, Nigel Hastilow, was forced to step down by David Cameron for saying Powell was right that uncontrolled immigration would change Britain irrevocably.'
BBC NEWS | UK | Britons fear race violence - poll

So any dissent is to be quashed, even if true, and not in itself racist, yet preachers of hate are allowed to carry on saying whatever vile things they like?

No wonder so many people apparently fear for the future.
 
garinda said:
Not wanting to get party political, but after criticising the last three governments, the major opposition party seems just as scared of not being politically correct, and afraid of being seen as intolerant.

'Five months ago, a Tory candidate in Birmingham, Nigel Hastilow, was forced to step down by David Cameron for saying Powell was right that uncontrolled immigration would change Britain irrevocably.'
BBC NEWS | UK | Britons fear race violence - poll

So any dissent is to be quashed, even if true, and not in itself racist, yet preachers of hate are allowed to carry on saying whatever vile things they like?

No wonder so many people apparently fear for the future.
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If Nigel Hastilow was forced to step down for only that quote, then that is interesting. It's interesting because yesterday Cameron announced a new policy to limit immigration to 'the tens of thousands rather than hundreds of thousands' which is a significant drop. Combined with the point system, controlled immigration you might say.
 
BERNADETTE said:
I will and do agree with Garinda but so often watch programmes like UK Border Control and wonder (no know why there are so many fighting to get into the UK?). Is it not time that things changed? I am not talking about people that want to enter the UK legally but the people who are going out of their way to get here illegally? Is it not time that our border agencies knew which colleges/universities were/are recognized in this country of ours? It seems nobody wants to take a count of who is entering our country, is it not time we asked for an honest answer?????
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It too often watch that program Bernie, it points out bogus colleges, usually of some takeaway, then there are the bogus marriages, an example of which we've been told about on this very web site only very recently, I wonder what is so very popular about this country which makes asylum seekers travel through numerous other counties but only want asylum in this country:rolleyes:
 
'54% of Britons polled resenting the legal right of EU citizens to work in Britain.'

'Most (MPs) say "it's complicated" and lower their voices. Migration has crept back up the list of hot-button issues since Labour opened the door to an unexpectedly large wave of eastern Europeans who joined the EU in 2004. Just 6% thought it a major issue in 1998, 42% last year, says Ipsos/Mori.'
Michael White: Labour still running into trouble over immigration | Comment is free | The Guardian

With such obvious fears, I'm honestly suprised that no major political party sees this as a massive potential vote winner, rather than fannying about with policies that the majority of the electorate couldn't give a fig for, leaving the extremist parties to continue gathering support.

Sadly they prefer to continue blindly following their politically corect doctrine, blissful in the knowledge they aren't 'racist' or culturally intolerant.
 
garinda said:
'54% of Britons polled resenting the legal right of EU citizens to work in Britain.'

'Most (MPs) say "it's complicated" and lower their voices. Migration has crept back up the list of hot-button issues since Labour opened the door to an unexpectedly large wave of eastern Europeans who joined the EU in 2004. Just 6% thought it a major issue in 1998, 42% last year, says Ipsos/Mori.'
Michael White: Labour still running into trouble over immigration | Comment is free | The Guardian

With such obvious fears, I'm honestly suprised that no major political party sees this as a massive potential vote winner, rather than fannying about with policies that the majority of the electorate couldn't give a fig for, leaving the extremist parties to continue gathering support.

Sadly they prefer to continue blindly following their politically corect doctrine, blissful in the knowledge they aren't 'racist' or culturally intolerant.
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if that don't just sum em up, they are racist, but are to stupid to see it, the fact ya said in last paragraph, causes resentment, n bad karma to ALL immigrants in the minds of those who aint so bright, these cretins are near as bad as the "Real Racists" IMHO:(
 
'Anjem Choudary receives over £15,000 in housing benefit, to live in a £320,000 house in Leytonstone, East London. The cleric is also given a £1,820 council tax allowance, £5,200 in income support and £3,120 in child benefits, totalling £25,740.' 'By contrast, a private fighting the Taliban in the Afghan badlands is paid a basic £16,680 - or £13,430 after tax.'

'At a sinister press conference held in London in March 2009, he detailed how he would deal with the Business Secretary if Britain was ruled under Sharia law.'
'Speaking to the media, he said Lord Mandelson should be re-educated about the “evils” of homosexuality - but would be executed if he confessed to a queer relationship.'
Phobic hate cleric gets £25,000 in benefits - PinkPaper

'Home Secretary Alan Johnson is thought to be considering using the 2000 Terrorism Act to ban Islam4UK.'
Daily Star: Simply The Best 7 Days A Week :: News :: Evil preacher Choudary: We won't go away

You keep on 'considering' Mr. Johnson, whilst the B.N.P. saves money on it's recruitment budget, because you're doing the job for them, for free.
 
As Enoch Powell said, in whatever year it was. Close the floodgates of immigration. he has been proved right.
 
Right this is post 153 of this thread n Bernard Dawson apart NOT 1 of our political councillors that are members have made ANY comment at all about this real problem.:( so as they have not the backbone IMHO, what chance is there of National MPs etc doing anything? NONE AT ALL in my book.:( so forget it fanatics are here to stay!:(
 
cashman said:
Right this is post 153 of this thread n Bernard Dawson apart NOT 1 of our political councillors that are members have made ANY comment at all about this real problem.:( so as they have not the backbone IMHO, what chance is there of National MPs etc doing anything? NONE AT ALL in my book.:( so forget it fanatics are here to stay!:(
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There's always a rent-a-quote politican available to denounce right-wing political extremism, but you're right, there's a deathly silence when it comes to hatred akin to Nazism, when it's issued by a religious 'preacher', for fear of causing cultural offence.

Weak, weak, weak.
 
My twenty-two year old grandfather was killed fighting Nazism, and ensuring we continued to live in a democracy.

Sixty odd years later you can be assured his grandson doesn't plan on swinging by the neck from some gallows.

Which isn't such a far-fetched concept, while we have politicans who allow religious leaders to call for the execution of government ministers, and are allowed to remain at liberty to continue their tirade of hate, aided (and funded) by the silence of the mainstream politicans.
 
cashman said:
Right this is post 153 of this thread n Bernard Dawson apart NOT 1 of our political councillors that are members have made ANY comment at all about this real problem.:( so as they have not the backbone IMHO, what chance is there of National MPs etc doing anything? NONE AT ALL in my book.:( so forget it fanatics are here to stay!:(
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No comment from Graham Jones, Claytonender etc? Funny...they're usually so voluble!! ;)
 
Just seen the lot who were at a home coming parade for soldiers, calling them murders and such.

Above their heads they held a sign:
'Islam will take over the world. Freedom can go to hell'

The same freedom they used to protest in the first place. Why don't we send them to Saudi Arabia and see if they still think freedom should go to hell.
 
It is really ripping me so much when these so called p*****ks keep claiming to be british (and yes the majority are born here) They accept with open arms all our country has to give them

In the next breath they are also claiming that they do not want the british soldiers in (their words) THEIR COUNTRY.

If they want to protect THEIR COUNTRY then sod off over there and put your money where your mouth is.

STOP claiming to be British
Stop scrounging of our country and go back and fight for what you believe in over in the country you support.

It really makes my blood boil.
 
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