Fasting

Quote;I would be far more concerned about the surgeon who is carried legless from the pub at one in the morning and is due in theatre eight hours later.

You met him also what a coincidence.
 
lindsay ormerod said:
Ok, a difficult and delicate subject, some of my Muslim colleagues are fasting for Ramadan, I know full well that I couldn't do it, it involves such long hours without food or drink that I know my concentration and performance would suffer. If I were a doctor or a surgeon I would have serious misgivings about my ability to function properly, how does everyone else feel about this emotive subject? Should our Muslim colleagues have the fasting period off or should we expect them to still function on what is basically a starvation diet with sleep deprivation thrown in?
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If a person is getting paid to do a job of work and fasting interferes with their ability to do so to the satisfaction of the employer then that person should either break the fast, take unpaid time off work or use up their holiday entitlement.

Alternatively they could opt to take the night shift if there is one.

This should apply particularly to people who are responsible for the safety and well being of others, like an airline pilot and aircrew, bus/coach/train/taxi/HGV driver, officers on a ship, teachers, hospital staff, emergency services – the list is almost endless.

Maybe the answer is to make all people fasting during the day to use their holiday entitlement.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
I bet there are lots of people who fast and others around them are totally unaware that they are doing as it doesn't affect their concentration or ability in any way. A lot of busy people just forget to eat or drink because they are concentrating on doing something.

I wonder how it affects life in countries where the population is almost 100% Muslim. They don't grind to a halt do they? Latter-day Saints fast, once a month every month and on other occasions for personal reasons whenever relevant and yet no-one is ever aware of it.
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It is one thing to fast for one day a month or forgetting to eat during the odd day and quite another to fast for 30 consecutive days.

In any case people who don’t eat during the day because they are too busy still take on sustenance in the form of drinks.
 
onlyme said:
Dawn till Dusk Fasting??? Is that not what every single mother does?

I generally dont eat till 8-9pm, doesnt affect anything I do
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How many brews do you consume and nibbles at something? Like tasting baby’s food as you feed him/her.
 
mani said:
listen its like this

amir khan fasted last ramadan and won his fight

he didnt fast this ramadan and lost in 54 seconds...

*LOL*

:D allow it hehehe

personally it doesnt start getting to me till around 6pm by which time if i was a surgeon i wud b sitting at home.

the only jobs that i'd think twice if i should fast would be the physical ones. you dont really lose concentration just cause your hungry but you would suffer if your thirsty mid-afternoon doing heavy labour.

but great question though.
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Amir Khan lost his last fight because he went into it too cock sure.
 
what was scary is that once i searched a guy who turned out to be a high level consultant at warrington hospital and he had a £50 bag of cocaine on a night out.
 
mani said:
what was scary is that once i searched a guy who turned out to be a high level consultant at warrington hospital and he had a £50 bag of cocaine on a night out.
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Now that woul sca the crap out of me mani:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
jambutty said:
It is one thing to fast for one day a month or forgetting to eat during the odd day and quite another to fast for 30 consecutive days.
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But it isn't continual fasting. If a person did fast continually for 30 days then yes I would worry about their state of health and whether or not they were capable of doing their job, in fact if they didn't drink for 30 days they would probably pass out and be extremely dehydrated, but Muslims who fast for Ramadan only do so during daylight hours so they are eating before sunrise and after sunset. It is possible to start the day with something which has a high glycaemic index such as lentils, beans, rice, porridge etc, which will release energy slowly throughout the day. Not having the morning sehri meal could be a problem but those who fast wisely will remain healthy and alert. I'm sure they realise this.

My Dad used to work in precision engineering as an inspector and never noticed any fall in standards by the Muslim workers during Ramadan.
 
I could probably do without the food during the day but I know I couldn't function to the best of my abilities without drinking water, and I am also concerned about the sleep patterns, if you are getting up at 3am to make a meal for your family and then not getting back to sleep that is a very long day.
 
must be a new trend, getting up at 3-00 am cooking, me mates wife used to make a great big panfull during the the day to be scranned evening n next early morning, i know this cos i always used to get some.:D
 
lindsay ormerod said:
I could probably do without the food during the day but I know I couldn't function to the best of my abilities without drinking water, and I am also concerned about the sleep patterns, if you are getting up at 3am to make a meal for your family and then not getting back to sleep that is a very long day.
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I agree with you on the water lindsay, I drink around 2 to 3 litres a day, in fact water is the only thing I drink usuall during the week, might have a coffee or two at weekends. If more people drank around 2 litres a day it would improve health, as water tends to clear your system of unwanted eliments
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
But it isn't continual fasting. If a person did fast continually for 30 days then yes I would worry about their state of health and whether or not they were capable of doing their job, in fact if they didn't drink for 30 days they would probably pass out and be extremely dehydrated, but Muslims who fast for Ramadan only do so during daylight hours so they are eating before sunrise and after sunset. It is possible to start the day with something which has a high glycaemic index such as lentils, beans, rice, porridge etc, which will release energy slowly throughout the day. Not having the morning sehri meal could be a problem but those who fast wisely will remain healthy and alert. I'm sure they realise this.

My Dad used to work in precision engineering as an inspector and never noticed any fall in standards by the Muslim workers during Ramadan.
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I never stated that it was continual fasting. You know what I meant but then why let the opportunity to gain some Brownie points go by.

So let me make it quite clear.

It is one thing fasting between sunrise and sunset for one day a month and totally another to do so for 30 consecutive days.

Incidentally a human being will die not just ‘pass out’ without fluid intake for 30 days. But then I suppose that dying is passing out permanently.

I believe that the time limit is five days without any fluid intake and if you not dead you are beyond the point of recovery.
 
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