Flood Problems
- Thread starter Barrie Yates
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I tell this story Margaret but nobody believes me, I went to a friend's Gran's at Walsden mid 70s and she had lines drawn up the vestibule wall. I asked her why and she explained that it was always flooding so she marked the heights. After each flood they would put the furniture and rugs outside wait for it to dry and then start again !
If you walk up Rochdale Road you can see slots either side of the doorways into which they put planks of wood when it rained, having spent hundreds of millions of pounds my son's flooded yesterday !
If you walk up Rochdale Road you can see slots either side of the doorways into which they put planks of wood when it rained, having spent hundreds of millions of pounds my son's flooded yesterday !
My auntie had those slots too....she threaded a floodboard into the slots once the river reached a certain height...and then we went about lifting the rugs and the furniture.
She had no electricty, only gas.
I am sorry to hear about your son. I really feel for those who have been flooded out. I know what it is like and the mess it leaves behind.
Likewise, him and me are both so sorry to hear of the devastating floods and the situation people have been put in. Even when the water has subsided there will be so much heartache as people discover all that they have lost. Irreplaceable items. So much work to do in the aftermath.
A bit off-topic for this thread, I know, but there's no need to copyright photos. It is granted automatically for any created media - in the case of photos simply pressing the shutter release confers copyright, which is why this caused such a fuss at the time.
The media will make a token effort to find the owner of a photo before using it. It's cheaper, on average, to steal images then pay royalties (or, more usually, a settlement) if the copyright holder shows up and makes a fuss than to make concerted efforts to find each owner and ask permission.
Sticking a copyright symbol © at the corner is no protection, they just crop it off. Having a semi-opaque symbol over the top of the whole image is the only protection, but it ruins the effect...
I see Cameron has 'visited' the victims of the floods....
...just goes to show,you think the worse is over and another sh*te floats in
...just goes to show,you think the worse is over and another sh*te floats in
get over it Jason..it is what politicians of every colour do...if they didn't do it they would be slammed as uncaring...when they do do it they are subjected to the kind of ridicule that you have posted....it is a case of damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Visiting an area is just a PR thing...much as is the visiting of contituencies during and election.
It serves only the media circus in real terms.
What is really needed is the clearing of drains, the widening and deepening of rivers which are prone to flooding, the cessation of building on flood plains, the planting of more trees.......and lastly(but no less important) financial aid for those areas affected...not just to build back the infrastructure but to help those whose homes have suffered damage.
In the past when there have been natural disasters in other parts of the world, the good old Brits have put their hands deep into their pockets and given money.......do you see any country doing this right now to help our flood victims?
Visiting an area is just a PR thing...much as is the visiting of contituencies during and election.
It serves only the media circus in real terms.
What is really needed is the clearing of drains, the widening and deepening of rivers which are prone to flooding, the cessation of building on flood plains, the planting of more trees.......and lastly(but no less important) financial aid for those areas affected...not just to build back the infrastructure but to help those whose homes have suffered damage.
In the past when there have been natural disasters in other parts of the world, the good old Brits have put their hands deep into their pockets and given money.......do you see any country doing this right now to help our flood victims?
Who did what and when does not help those who are in dire straits right now.
What matters now, is that those in power recognise that something decisive has to be done.
We wait and see what actions take place.
The cutting of flood defences is only one aspect of the problem.
As I said in a previous post there are actions which should be taken to minimise the risks.
You are never going to be able to prevent all these floods... But much more could be done.
The plain of York is a flood plain.....those residents who live there should know that.....there are other similar places where building has been permitted despite the risks. How are those people going to get insurance in the future.
The answer is they are not. In such situations then there should be some kind of government scheme which they pay into and they are insured for floods.
What matters now, is that those in power recognise that something decisive has to be done.
We wait and see what actions take place.
The cutting of flood defences is only one aspect of the problem.
As I said in a previous post there are actions which should be taken to minimise the risks.
You are never going to be able to prevent all these floods... But much more could be done.
The plain of York is a flood plain.....those residents who live there should know that.....there are other similar places where building has been permitted despite the risks. How are those people going to get insurance in the future.
The answer is they are not. In such situations then there should be some kind of government scheme which they pay into and they are insured for floods.
I'm over it,I'm lucky enough not to be effected by these tragic floods.
It must be made even worse for those poor souls effected as these floods have come at a time when these folk would probably be relaxing and spending time with relatives etc.
Your comment suggests that by Cameron 'visiting' these areas he cares,do you really think this is the case...I didn't think so.
The government has cut funding and chooses to ignore advice from the EA so it's hardly surprising flooding has become a real problem.
I agree,perhaps it is time to stop putting foreign aid and expenses before the needs of these local folk.
You need to read my post again Jason.
I don't know where you got the idea that by visiting these areas shows he cares.
I said in a previous post that this is what politicians of all colours do in an attempt to make it look as though they are concerned.....I also said it is just a Public relations exercise......a media circus.
But had he not done this he would have been damned by you as being unconcerned......hence the comment damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
There is nothing to suggest that if funding had not been cut the situation would have been any better.
I agree that money set aside for foreign aid.....much of it going to despotic regimes, should be made available for improvements to be funded.
We should get some of the money we pay into the EU to cover costs of the clean up......apparently there is a fund for such things. I have not heard anything about whether an application for such funds has been submitted.....though why you would need to submit a request when there is evidence of the damage being relayed around the world.
Have a read of this though about how dredging rivers beds isn't allowed The EU is to Blame for Britain's Flood Disaster
Just watched the leader of labour run LCC on Granada Reports, one Jenny Mein discussing the flooding. One of her comments was that she and her colleagues have been 'working very hard' to ensure that the 'most vulnerable' i.e. the aged and infirm were being attended to, because 'they are the most needy' in these difficult times....
Yay..(the cynic in me thinks, 3 days later and after the benefit of a speech writer) councillors do have the community that voted them in at heart!
Then I read this...
'RIDICULOUS?: Lancashire County Council to spend £6.6m on money saving experts (From Lancashire Telegraph)
Our beloved labour LCC, from behind closed doors, outsourcing, to the value of £6.6 million, attempting to find ways to swindle the 'needy'
And there you have it..people who stand for any council (usually through nepotism or the old boys network), not having the semblance of a clue what the job entails, not having any leadership skills whatsoever (except perhaps a bit of a personality, the right clothing sense and a photogenic smile)...but clueless and useless when the chips go down...trying to find others to do their jobs at our expense.
Who can forget our MP who couldn't recall where he lived, the local councillor who blamed an imaginary national decision, the councillor who can just about see the ward he represents through his backyard telescope....bloody pathetic in a crisis the lot of them.......shift the blame, avoid the issue or just shut up shop and wait for something good that the can align themselves with to surface to win votes..
Not going to wish anyone a happy new year..cos it aint gonna happen
Yay..(the cynic in me thinks, 3 days later and after the benefit of a speech writer) councillors do have the community that voted them in at heart!
Then I read this...
'RIDICULOUS?: Lancashire County Council to spend £6.6m on money saving experts (From Lancashire Telegraph)
Our beloved labour LCC, from behind closed doors, outsourcing, to the value of £6.6 million, attempting to find ways to swindle the 'needy'
And there you have it..people who stand for any council (usually through nepotism or the old boys network), not having the semblance of a clue what the job entails, not having any leadership skills whatsoever (except perhaps a bit of a personality, the right clothing sense and a photogenic smile)...but clueless and useless when the chips go down...trying to find others to do their jobs at our expense.
Who can forget our MP who couldn't recall where he lived, the local councillor who blamed an imaginary national decision, the councillor who can just about see the ward he represents through his backyard telescope....bloody pathetic in a crisis the lot of them.......shift the blame, avoid the issue or just shut up shop and wait for something good that the can align themselves with to surface to win votes..
Not going to wish anyone a happy new year..cos it aint gonna happen
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My son has just been selected to stand for a ward in next May's local elections because he wants to help people. Perhaps if more folk who criticise councillors stood up to be counted and put themselves forward we would all benefit from having representatives to truly cared.