Flu Jab

West Ender said:
I had my 'flu jab a week last Thursday. The nurse persuaded me to have the one-off pneumonia jab at the same time (even though I was hospitalised with pneumonia in January).

Last Tuesday I went down with an horrendous chest infection and am now awash with antibiotics. It's probably a coincidence................:(
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Yes it is. The flu vaccine does not inject any virus into you at all, and should be very rare to have effects, 'cept swollen arm sometimes, slight temperature and headaches in rare cases.

Pneumonia is bacterial, so can't think this has affected you at all, as the jab does also not contain any live bacteria.
 
used to have a coarse of "FLU" capsules (Red n Green) efforts way back n was flu-free fer many years, until 1 year they changed it fer the jab n had a real bad dose straight after, so in my case i never bothered again n never had flu, touch wood.
 
Research into Gulf War syndrome has revealed a better insight into how vaccines work
How Vaccinations Work - Th1/Th2 Immune Response
What raised my eyebrow, and doubts, was this-
"In individuals in whom the Th1 function predominates, causing many acute inflammations because the cellular immune system is overreactive, a vaccination could have a balancing effect on the immune system and be helpful for that individual.
In individuals in whom the Th2 function predominates, causing few acute inflammations but rather the tendency to chronic allergic or autoimmune inflammations, a vaccination would cause the Th2 function to predominate even more, aggravating the imbalance of the immune system and harming the health of that individual. This is what happened in Gulf War Illness.
The current use of vaccinations in medicine today is essentially a "shotgun" approach which ignores differences among individuals. In such an approach some individuals may be helped and others may be harmed."
 
MargaretR said:
Research into Gulf War syndrome has revealed a better insight into how vaccines work
How Vaccinations Work - Th1/Th2 Immune Response
What raised my eyebrow, and doubts, was this-
"In individuals in whom the Th1 function predominates, causing many acute inflammations because the cellular immune system is overreactive, a vaccination could have a balancing effect on the immune system and be helpful for that individual.
In individuals in whom the Th2 function predominates, causing few acute inflammations but rather the tendency to chronic allergic or autoimmune inflammations, a vaccination would cause the Th2 function to predominate even more, aggravating the imbalance of the immune system and harming the health of that individual. This is what happened in Gulf War Illness.
The current use of vaccinations in medicine today is essentially a "shotgun" approach which ignores differences among individuals. In such an approach some individuals may be helped and others may be harmed."
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Glad you cleared that one up:alright:
 
Although I'm in a high risk group, I refuse to have the flu jab. I last had it (the flue jab Neil) in 1994, before that within days of having the jab, it was away with the blue flashing lights, then in and out of hospital four, five or six times over the winter. Since 1994 I've been an in patient 3 times only 2002 in early September and twice this year July and early September again, in fact I was discussing the fact only 2 hours ago with my consultant at the Royal Blackburn. The only sacrifices I make are that I don't go into crowded place in the flu season, and if friends of relatives have any coughs or colds they keep away, because people can die from these ailments, if they give um to me:rolleyes:. In fact I'm a bit like Margaret in that respect as we both seem to hibernate during the winter
 
West Ender said:
I had my 'flu jab a week last Thursday. The nurse persuaded me to have the one-off pneumonia jab at the same time (even though I was hospitalised with pneumonia in January).

Last Tuesday I went down with an horrendous chest infection and am now awash with antibiotics. It's probably a coincidence................:(
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That happened to me last year, exactly a week after having the jab i was the illest i have ever been with a chest infection.:(
 
katex said:
Yes it is. The flu vaccine does not inject any virus into you at all, and should be very rare to have effects, 'cept swollen arm sometimes, slight temperature and headaches in rare cases.

Pneumonia is bacterial, so can't think this has affected you at all, as the jab does also not contain any live bacteria.
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I thought that the idea of a vaccination was to inject a weakened form of the virus or a dead one so that when the real thing comes around your body already has the ‘blueprint’ to produce the right antibodies.
 
jambutty said:
There is such a thing as a rum hot toddy, or even a brandy one.
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I assumed she meant because it has alcohol in it and wouldnt be a good idea with her medication, not the type of alcohol...

personally i prefer bene and hot
 
I received a letter from the surgery re. a flu jab - had one for the last 7 years, with no
ill -effects, flu, coughs or colds, have also had a pneumonia jab.
 
Every year for many years now I get a letter from my doctor inviting me to make an appointment for the flu jab.

I take up the offer and I haven’t had even a cold since then let alone flu. Was it the jab or was it because I didn’t get infected?

Maybe it’s the fags that I smoke? No flu virus can get past the gunge in my lungs.
 

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jambutty said:
I thought that the idea of a vaccination was to inject a weakened form of the virus or a dead one so that when the real thing comes around your body already has the ‘blueprint’ to produce the right antibodies.
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Sorry Jambutty you are correct of course .. meant to say 'not a live virus' :o

Re: your last post ... I haven't had a cold for three years, and would you believe, think I have one now, just hovering at the moment, however, have just texted daughter and perfectly OK for me to go ahead with my jab in the morning. Telling me off too for not having it earlier... me being lazy I'm afraid, have had the note from the Doctor's for over a month.
 
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katex said:
Sorry Jambutty you are correct of course .. meant to say 'not a live virus' :o

Re: your last post ... I haven't had a cold for three years, and would you believe, think I have one now, just hovering at the moment, however, have just texted daughter and perfectly OK for me to go ahead with my jab in the morning. Telling me off too for not having it earlier... me being lazy I'm afraid, have had the note from the Doctor's for over a month.
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One thing has always puzzled me. Why do the nurses always say something like, “just a small scratch” when administering the injection?

It’s nothing like a scratch!

If they don’t fancy saying what could be misconstrued by dirty minded people, then say nothing. Just stick the needle in. It’s not as if the injection actually hurts and even if it does it is only for a second or two.
 
jambutty said:
One thing has always puzzled me. Why do the nurses always say something like, “just a small scratch” when administering the injection?

It’s nothing like a scratch!

If they don’t fancy saying what could be misconstrued by dirty minded people, then say nothing. Just stick the needle in. It’s not as if the injection actually hurts and even if it does it is only for a second or two.
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That's nowt .. picked this up from my daughter's blog, she has a strange sense of humour ..:rolleyes:

'WKD


I grip a sharp, needle between my fingers and a blood taking bottle in my other hand...and as I approach the nervous patient... I just can't help saying,
'Hope you will bear with me here cos I haven't done this before' as I lick my lips nervously....
<<snigger>>

Its just my little joke...Yeah I know... hahaha!'
 
I get mine on thursday but it still seems that no one has had flu.
I've had it three times and it does not compare to a cold or even a heavy cold.
If you are out and someone says they have flu - They haven't.You are going nowhere but bed if you have got it.:jimbo::jimbo:
 
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