General Election

Cameron's now being shown up for what he is...a very mediocre Blair wannabe. However, unlike the Dear Leader who was a dab hand with the old smoke and mirrors routine, Cameron just can't carry off the deception and ends up floundering on the shores of public opinion.

However, there is such an instinctive feeling of dislike towards Brown and humourless, PC-obsessed haridans like Harman that the boy David might just scrape through anyway.

I might just put my money on a minority Tory administration this time around (closely followed by another election).

You wont get any better odds than 5/4 Hung Parliament at the moment Mr H. And that's with Labour as the largest party.
 
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Cameron's now being shown up for what he is...a very mediocre Blair wannabe. However, unlike the Dear Leader who was a dab hand with the old smoke and mirrors routine, Cameron just can't carry off the deception and ends up floundering on the shores of public opinion.

However, there is such an instinctive feeling of dislike towards Brown and humourless, PC-obsessed haridans like Harman that the boy David might just scrape through anyway.

I might just put my money on a minority Tory administration this time around (closely followed by another election).

It should have been, and at one time looked like, a dead cert.

A walk in the park.

Which doesn't reflect well on the publics' perceived abilities of the opposition.

:rolleyes:
 
You wont get any better odds than 5/4 Hung Parliament at the moment Mr H.And that's with Labour as the biggest party.

Yep, not worth a flutter really, Bernard. Outright Labour victory's coming up at 13/2...hmmm, might be worth a trip down the bookies today...especially if the boy David makes a few more gaffes in the coming weeks. ;)
 
We're already in a mess. Largely of Gordon Brown's making. Labour have spent, spent, spent over the last decade, with no thought about the future. I don't trust them to reduce the deficit, since they're the ones that have built it up. If we don't reduce the deficit quickly, and Labour plan to do nothing in the first year, we'll see rising interest rates which will hit mortgage owners hard.

Brown is balancing the budget on the backs of working people.

And the 50p tax rate and 5% stamp duty on mansions? Didn;t you aregue that all Labour want's to do is penalise the successful?

Your argument would have merit if Germany's and Japans economy hadn't had deeper recessions, if unemployment was higher in the EuroZone and USA.

It would also be an acceptable argument if Britain wasn't so reliant on financial services or that every other country has adopted Gordon Brown's solution.
 
And the 50p tax rate and 5% stamp duty on mansions? Didn;t you aregue that all Labour want's to do is penalise the successful?

Your argument would have merit if Germany's and Japans economy hadn't had deeper recessions, if unemployment was higher in the EuroZone and USA.

It would also be an acceptable argument if Britain wasn't so reliant on financial services or that every other country has adopted Gordon Brown's solution.

The 50p tax rate will send people out of the country. Better to tax them on something, and have their wealth generating skills in the country, than tax them on nothing and do without. The 50p tax was nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with trying to trip the Conservatives up.

Japan has lower unemployment than the UK, despite their economy still being marred by their own financial crash in the 90s. Germany has had unemployment dropping for years, we've had it rising for years.

We're running the same structural deficit as Greece, which is having to be bailed out. Every family knows you can't spend more than your income.

We were the first of the G20 countries into recession, and the last out. Hardly a thumbs up for our economy.

We're at risk of losing our credit rating, as the private sector loses confidence in the governments ability and willingness to pay back it's creditors. That will mean an even greater cost in interest payments to bankers, payments which already dwarf the entire defence budget. Interest rates will rise, people with mortgages will really feel the pinch, and may lose their home. Working people will be the ones who suffer.

We have to avoid this at all costs by government living within it's means and cutting the deficit immediately. There is no time to wait.
 
The ‘Output, prices, and jobs‘ section of this week’s Economist clearly shows that there are at least five G20 countries still in recession: Britain, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, and Russia. Spain, who attend G20 meetings, are also still in recession.

this was posted december,on an economics site, seems the others on this list have come out of recession P.D.Q.?:confused:
 
The ‘Output, prices, and jobs‘ section of this week’s Economist clearly shows that there are at least five G20 countries still in recession: Britain, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, and Russia. Spain, who attend G20 meetings, are also still in recession.

this was posted december,on an economics site, seems the others on this list have come out of recession P.D.Q.?:confused:

Spain do attend G20 meetings, they're not in the G20 though. Canada, Mexico, South Africa and Russia came out of recession before we did.

UK recession longest and deepest since war, says ONS | Business | guardian.co.uk (We've since come out of recession with 0.3% growth)
 
The ‘Output, prices, and jobs‘ section of this week’s Economist clearly shows that there are at least five G20 countries still in recession: Britain, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, and Russia. Spain, who attend G20 meetings, are also still in recession.

this was posted december,on an economics site, seems the others on this list have come out of recession P.D.Q.?:confused:

A better way of making comparisons perhaps, for those of us old enough to remember, would be to try and weigh up if we are better, or worse off today, than we were twenty years ago, when Queen Margaret was still on the throne.
 
A better way of making comparisons perhaps, for those of us old enough to remember, would be to try and weigh up if we are better, or worse off today, than we were twenty years ago, when Queen Margaret was still on the throne.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: very witty.
 
Yep, not worth a flutter really, Bernard. Outright Labour victory's coming up at 13/2...hmmm, might be worth a trip down the bookies today...especially if the boy David makes a few more gaffes in the coming weeks. ;)

Got down there, thought about it and decided to put my tenner on Stanley to win at Bournemouth at 11/4 instead. I may live to regret that decision if Cameron carries on shooting himself in the foot.

Now I'm off to the pub to waste some more money. :D
 
I was talking about officially. I still think our economy is terrible and we have worse to come.

You could be right, the Tories could get in.

I'll be alright though, this time I won't be on the Dole with a family to bring up.
:)
 
You could be right, the Tories could get in.

I'll be alright though, this time I won't be on the Dole with a family to bring up.
:)

Happy days, I'm sure.

Have you gone all misty eyed, remembering the 'good old days'?

:rolleyes:
 
Happy days, I'm sure.

Have you gone all misty eyed, remembering the 'good old days'?

:rolleyes:

I couldn't afford mist back then, we were lucky the council house we lived in was five star,

Wait for it, it's an oldy but a goodie,

That was the number of them we could see through the roof where the slates had gone missing.

Bumtisheythangyouw.

If I hadn't spent so much time sleeping under it during those days just for the price of a 5p piece I could have been at the end of the Pier.

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Last Saturday I was reading an article by a prominent economist, who was talking about the dangers of a double dip recession (which basically means that we go back into another recession. He said that if Labour win it was unlikely we would go into a double dip (unless other European countries go back into recession which would have a bad effect on the UK economy). However, if the Tories win with their promises of cutting public spending - which in effect means cutting capital projects such as school building projects, elevate etc. This would have a catastrophic effect on the economy putting large numbers of construction workers out of work, which would in turn have a domino effect on other companies that supply builders. It would also have a multiplier effect on shops etc where the unemployed had bought food and other goods. Not to mention the loss of tax income and the large amount of welfare benefits (job seekers allowance, rent and council tax benefit etc) that would be paid.

Maybe this time round the Tories want to destroy another section of the British people - with Maggie it was the miners and manufacturing industry.
 
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