Get O'Neill Out - NOW

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Accrington Stanley have been subjected to a transfer embargo by the Football League, however we would like to reassure supporters that this will be resolved very quickly.

Cashflow is an issue at the club from time to time and the postponement of the Burton Albion game at the end of this month has had a knock on effect and meant that we haven't paid this month's payment to HMRC.

We have however spoken with them today and assured them that the payment will be made in a timely manner, hopefully early next week, which will in turn see the embargo lifted.

New Football League regulations introduced this season mean that any club falling behind on payments to HMRC is automatically immediately embargoed.

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That oaf has no clue what he's doing running a football club. Manager of day-to-day operations my left one. Twice since Christmas payments have been missed. We won't be given any leeway by HMRC after the previous debacle. SORT IT OUT.
 
It probably will, but that's not the point. The director of operations shouldn't sit around waiting for hand outs to pay the bills; if he at all knew what he was doing he'd be pro-active and prevent any financial ****-ups making things tough for Coley - again. Cover for when Flynn & Kee are away with NI will have to wait.

"This won't happen again", we heard after the time they "thought we had longer to pay". Absolutely ridiculous.
 
Absolutely shocking that this should happen again

As Shaker says a couple of lads on international duty, pick up a red & few injuries could curtail any play-off aspirations

Things take time we know but everytime something like this happens we can't expect the begging bowl to go out to Ilyas & Peter

The time has come for Loweiys idea of no one person holding more than 35% to come to fruition sooner rather than later

That must be be with genuine input from the fans at Boardroom Level

Whether that comes via a Trust or whatever it has to happen soon!

Why have we no Stadium Sponsor?
Why do we not have Match Sponsors for every game?

These are income steams get them tapped
 
whilst clubs like ours exist on a shoestring, the fact this has happened again so quickly, i can only assume the manager was NOT aware of this at the begining of the week, hence his comment in the media, he was hoping to sign a defender on monday/tuesday, this to me goes deeper than the DON, these people must have known at the start of this week,payment was not going to be made with tuesdays postponement, yet nothing once again was said.:( i question were Ilyas n Peter put in picture? i assume not. after saying this would not happen again, i can only reach the conclusion that certain people are NOT up to the job! Transparency thats a laugh,:( what has happened once again is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.:mad:
 
Could not believe it when I read this on fishy site, how stupid do they think we are?
Ilyas sorted their cock-up out just after Christmas and assured everyone it would not happen again - and yet in no time at all it has!
The statement says we couldn't pay this week blaming cash flow problems because the Burton game was postponed but that we'll pay early next week - where is the extra money coming from before then, Ilyas' pocket once again?
This is the one bill we cannot make late payment on and after all Ilyas has already done he shouldn't be expected to fork out over & over for run of the mill bills because whoever is responsible for these things on a day to day basis can't do their job!
 
VALAIRIAN said:
I am very sure that this will be sorted out by messers Khan and Marsden!!!
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I too have no doubt that this will be the case, however I do hope not by putting hands in pockets.......................this just cannot be allowed to happen time and time again.

Im very much with Shaker on this.
 
ukcowboy said:
I too have no doubt that this will be the case, however I do hope not by putting hands in pockets.......................this just cannot be allowed to happen time and time again.

Im very much with Shaker on this.
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do they even know?:confused:
 
Just imagine if we had played all our postponed games,how much we would have had.
Its unfortunate but lets not all go off our heads. It will be sorted. I had to delay paying my council tax bill in November because I paid £700 for repairs to my car. Chill out.
 
caretaker said:
Just imagine if we had played all our postponed games,how much we would have had.
Its unfortunate but lets not all go off our heads. It will be sorted. I had to delay paying my council tax bill in November because I paid £700 for repairs to my car. Chill out.
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I take your point, to a degree, however O'Neil has proved over and over again that He has no clue whatsoever!!

Once again it is the team that suffer because someone in charge of the day to day running of the Club has screwed up.

It wont happen again we were promised, well it has and now IMHO enough is enough, Mr O'Neil has to step aside at the earliest opportunity and allow Ilyas and Peter to put someone in place who can do the damn job!
 
caretaker said:
Just imagine if we had played all our postponed games,how much we would have had.
Its unfortunate but lets not all go off our heads. It will be sorted. I had to delay paying my council tax bill in November because I paid £700 for repairs to my car. Chill out.
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not a case of that, case of rebuilding trust which has failed miserably IMHO.
 
caretaker said:
Just imagine if we had played all our postponed games,how much we would have had.
Its unfortunate but lets not all go off our heads. It will be sorted. I had to delay paying my council tax bill in November because I paid £700 for repairs to my car. Chill out.
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Hardly the same situation - we've all had times when we've had to shuffle the bills around but as has been said the HMRC cannot and must not be kept waiting for their money and for this to happen twice in as many months is infuriating
 
Two questions

1) How much revenue was lost through the Buton game being postponed?


2) How much revenue was gained from the bumper crowd against Bradford last Saturday when the Club were caught short with higher than expected away fans?

I ain't no specialist but I would guess there would not be much between them
 
it cost 15.000 to hire a dome so would it not be a good thing say 50%50 split with team so games go on. fleetwood did it v dover in a nite game
 
It’s a simple equation really; reduced income creates pressure in the system and with the shear number of abandoned games means the shoe string wares to a thread and eventually **** happens. I would have thought that under the agreement of Mr. Khan’s input at the end of last year he would be informed; governance is his responsibility.

We can’t keep blaming Mr. O’Neil or anyone else for what is a fluctuation of means which is likely to continue due to adverse conditions outside the control of those in control; Even if Mr. Khan bought the club outright, short falls would occasionally occur.

I can only see three options; Mr. Khan or someone else buy the club (keep pompy, notts and Chester in mind)

We sell the cutting edge players or we find the means to keep the income coming in during the fluctuations in played games or out of season.

Forget equality ownership; even if you can get people to buy a maximum 35% it’s not going to mean they will all keep putting money in. Unless we can keep the minimum required income up; this will keep happening.
 
Doug said:
We can’t keep blaming Mr. O’Neil or anyone else for what is a fluctuation of means which is likely to continue due to adverse conditions outside the control of those in control; Even if Mr. Khan bought the club outright, short falls would occasionally occur.
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No one's blaming O'Neill for cirumstances beyond his control; it's the inability to deal with these inevitable situations that will obviously occur throughout the season. His title is director of day to day operations yet he is clearly not dealing with them sufficiently. Twice since Christmas payments to HMRC have been missed. This should be our first priority after the way the club has behaved in their eyes over the past few years! The first instance of a missed payment because "we thought we had more time to pay" was ridiculous enough. For a payment to be missed again is a downright failure on the part of the people running the club day-to-day, IMHO.
 
Doug said:
It’s a simple equation really; reduced income creates pressure in the system and with the shear number of abandoned games means the shoe string wares to a thread and eventually **** happens.
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But should it? The people in charge of the day to day running of the club have been there long enough by now. Why haven't they increased the club's income from non footballong activities and secured more sponsership? Are they able to do so? If not, at the very least they need help. We know HMRC aren't mucking about and really we should have anticipated losing a few games to the weather in winter. I don't have any answers and not being local I don't know what efforts the club are making but can the powers that be honestly say they've done all they can? If so, is it time to admit that the job us too big for them?
 
We also now have has many people behind the scenes in one role or another as we have ever had:confused:

The problem in the past we were always told was too much time was spent on day to day firefighting and not enough bodies so what's the problem now?
 
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The club's statement doesn't ring true. The club would have known the amount to pay at the end of February. HMRC required payment either by cheque at their offices on 19 March or by cleared funds in their bank account on 22 March. These dates are the same every month and should be well known to those at the club responsible for paying HMRC. Both are before the Burton match was due to be played. It seems someone's trying to pull the wool over our eyes and I'm guessing that Ilyas and Peter haven't been kept in the loop. In some companies heads would roll!
 
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