greg pope

skippy said:
on a final note on this thread i think greg is just complacent as he knows we vote for him the competition is non existent. i like people who are forthright
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Forthright= Direct and without evasion

Above is the definition of forthright, which is something you don't seem to have been in this thread.

You started it with:-
hi i was just curious to see what others thought of our mp . i went to see him recently and he wrote a letter on my behalf after i had given a load of details about my issue. from his response it seemed he must have known what the reply would be but conveniently he wrote the letter anyway. ( to make it seem he had done something i guess) ii found him lacking substance and if a someone with more personality came to oust him i would vote regardless of the party. wat are others experiences
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and despite people asking you politely, you have continued to evade telling them what exactly it is that you wanted our M.P. to do. How then can you expect anyone on here to give an honest opinion about the result of what he has done for you, if you are not willing to give them all the facts?

If what you asked was of such personal nature that you can't discuss it on here then I for one think you are going to have to learn to live with the results of what he has done for you because if with the facts given to him by you, Greg couldn't help, how can we decide that he didn't try hard enough for you when we don't know what you're talking about?
 
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I have met Greg on many occasions and he is a very decent and professional bloke.He helped the Our Price employees when we were made redundant 3 years ago and was very supportive throughout the whole sorry mess that it became. He has my support and faith in him;he does a great job;is often on the receiving end of unwarranted criticism and works incredibly hard for Hyndburn. The alternative is too hideous to contemplate.
 
Ok here's my two pence..... The only people who seem to be talking any real sense on the majority of this thread (not including those of you who have only chipped in here and there) are Cyfr and Garinda.

Kipax, with the greatest of respect, you are being a total ar*e.

And as for Skippy, the vagueness, the reticence, the evasiveness, the deliberate anti everything Greg Pope wise stance.......are you real or are you "someone else"?????????
 
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Shady McGough said:
Kipax, with the greatest of respect, you are being a total ar*e.
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all i am asking is what has he done.. i have even posted saying i dont know and he has probably done a lot and does a good job.. i just dont know and wanted someone to tell me.. whats wrogn with that


and for that you post personal insults at me....something you wouldnt do to my face by the way.. and yes i do know who you are.
 
Shady McGough said:
Ok here's my two pence..... The only people who seem to be talking any real sense on the majority of this thread (not including those of you who have only chipped in here and there) are Cyfr and Garinda.

Kipax, with the greatest of respect, you are being a total ar*e.

And as for Skippy, the vagueness, the reticence, the evasiveness, the deliberate anti everything Greg Pope wise stance.......are you real or are you "someone else"?????????
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I thought I provided a very valid opinion based on my own personal experience - what more can anyone be expected to do?
 
WillowTheWhisp said:
I thought I provided a very valid opinion based on my own personal experience - what more can anyone be expected to do?
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Perhaps you have been relegated to the,

(not including those of you who have only chipped in here and there)
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section.

If that is the case this 'shady' person doesn't know you because you never just chip in, you always jump in feet first and beggar the consequences!:D
 
KIPAX said:
all i am asking is what has he done.. i have even posted saying i dont know and he has probably done a lot and does a good job.. i just dont know and wanted someone to tell me.. whats wrogn with that


and for that you post personal insults at me....something you wouldnt do to my face by the way.. and yes i do know who you are.
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Kipax, I know you know who I am and that's why I posted what I did. I didn't say you WERE an ar*e, I said you were BEING an ar*e. And yes, I would say it to your face in this instance because I believe you were BEING one.
 
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Perhaps you have been relegated to the,
(not including those of you who have only chipped in here and there)
section.

If that is the case this 'shady' person doesn't know you because you never just chip in, you always jump in feet first and beggar the consequences!:D
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In which case my feet have been very restrained today :p
 
to less i told everyone that my issue was a council issue i dont see why i would want to blab my personal circumstances to everyone on the forum. thats my choice . im not peter britcliffe in disguise .im being treated like a deamon foor challenging the likes ogfgreg i expect someone of gregs standing to be forthright especially in a face to face meeting. i am not evasive just a private person and bye the way greg indicate later that he has little influence with council issues because it is tory run. i call this fobbing off .
 
Shady McGough said:
Kipax, I know you know who I am and that's why I posted what I did. I didn't say you WERE an ar*e, I said you were BEING an ar*e. .
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Actually... I apologise.. I shouldnt have said that... it goes against everything I say about a messageboard ....about not overlapping into real life...

I just think it was a bit off to single me out ... I mean who the hell are you anyways!! ... :)
 
Shady McGough said:
The only people who seem to be talking any real sense on the majority of this thread (not including those of you who have only chipped in here and there) are Cyfr and Garinda.
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Shady I don't mean to be impolite ... but remove your tongue from Cyfr and Rinds a*se, brown doesn't suit you! There has been many valid points in this thread! You may not agree with them but that doesn't make them any less valid :rolleyes:
 
skippy said:
to less i told everyone that my issue was a council issue i dont see why i would want to blab my personal circumstances to everyone on the forum. thats my choice . im not peter britcliffe in disguise .im being treated like a deamon foor challenging the likes ogfgreg i expect someone of gregs standing to be forthright especially in a face to face meeting. i am not evasive just a private person and bye the way greg indicate later that he has little influence with council issues because it is tory run. i call this fobbing off .
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What are you talking about? you are making even less sense now than you were before.
If you don't give the facts then people cannot give an honest opinion on how you have been dealt with, so the whole thread becomes a moot point.

Below is a quote of what I said regarding this thread, where you managed to read an accusation of you being Peter Britcliffe or to decide that I was demonising you from that I've no idea.

If what you asked was of such personal nature that you can't discuss it on here then I for one think you are going to have to learn to live with the results of what he has done for you because if with the facts given to him by you, Greg couldn't help, how can we decide that he didn't try hard enough for you when we don't know what you're talking about?
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I was musing over possibilities - you know, what the heck could skippy have asked of Greg Pope?

I came up with a hypothetical situation.

Supposing a Hyndburn resident had applied for planning permission for something which was totally impractical - a helipad on top of their terraced house for instance - and HBC had rejected the application.

Off the resident/constituent toddles to Greg to ask him, as their MP, to write to HBC and ask them to reconsider. Greg tries to tell resident that it's a daft idea and not to be such a prat (well he wouldn't use the word prat, he's far too polite for that) but resident/constituent insists that Greg should write letter to HBC.

Greg sighs and says "OK I'll write a letter but it won't do any good because it's still a bleepity-bleep-bleep stupid idea."

Resident/constituent complains that Greg has't taken them seriously.


Am I close?
 
Just to back Kipax up I too remember the columm where he admitted that his vote on Iraq was against the wishes of his constituents as it was the base of my email to him at the time.
 
WillowTheWhisp said:


Supposing a Hyndburn resident had applied for planning permission for something which was totally impractical - a helipad on top of their terraced house for instance - and HBC had rejected the application.



Am I close?
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Willow your being silly now, that situation would not arise because our councils esteemed leader would have fast tracked an idea like that through all the planning stages and at the same time announced in the Obbo' how hard he was working to bring new jobs into the area.:rolleyes:
 
We all know Kipax likes winding people up and sometimes tends to talk through his rear end but this time he's totally correct in what he says. Have a read at this from Greg's very own website:

I certainly wasn’t short of advice in the run-up to the vote. Some of my friends, family and colleagues are opposed to the war and either went on the Stop the War march or otherwise supported it. Labour Party members I’ve known for decades, people who during the 1980s helped drag Labour back from the edge of lunacy and into electability, urged me to oppose it. Some of my best friends in the Commons went in to the division lobbies to oppose the war. Many constituents rang or wrote or e-mailed me and urged me to oppose it too. They probably speak for a majority of voters in Hyndburn. So why did I vote the other way?

Full article: http://www.gregpope.co.uk/story.asp?storyID=6
 
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