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cmonstanley

cmonstanley

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:( im going to have gripe about yesterdays match and where we are heading.we are heading down unless drastic action is taken .we seem to just pump the ball up to a non existant paul mullin i think its time we had a new captain he doesnt encourage them he doesnt shout out instruction 100% effort is alright if your in the right position how many time did we lose posession when we tried the same old tactics the way we are playing now we are not good enough..and to those people who think it wont be a disaster if we go down take your head out of the sand it will be a disaster because i think the way this team are playing we would struggle in the conference and if we did the wages the players are on with dwindling crowds would bankrupt the club..so its time for action now i dont know what im not the manager bit its decision time for john coleman he could be the manager who took stanley to the league he could also be the manager who killed stanley. i dont see any drastic action from him now but maybe soon thats me finished and anybody who thinks im talking tripe look at other league clubs who have gone out of business...:(
 
to sum it up we need drastic action to stop the slide out of the league and those who say it wont be a disaster if we went out of the league. ill tell you it will cause the way the team is playing we would struggle in the conference an d most players are on three year contracts their wages woul cripple the club with dwindling crowds nobody woul want to buy them either...plain enough and the way to start stopping the slide is to change captain
 
paul mullin is not the chosen captain( but works hard) and cav will be back soon. To be honest i dont think you can just say that if we changed the captain everything will be sorted out. it may help but i dont think it will make th team play alot better. there are other factors that need sorting. One thing isnt gunna help much. stanley need to start changing all the little things which will mount to a big change. I think stanley will stay up. We have players coming back from injury and even though we arnt playing to our full potential at the moment our recent form isnt too bad ( for a team that may be going down). the team will start to gel and understand each other.
 
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I can understand your comments to a point... But changing captain wont change much... You say Mullers doesnt motivate the team ??

For goodness sake the eleven players chosen to represent the club are being paid, it's their job !! they shouldnt need motivating, personel pride, they are playing for our club and playing for their professional and football league careers.

Most of the players worked hard to get the club into the Football League they WONT want to go back trust me.

No Mullers isnt Roy Keane... It's time all eleven players became captain and stand up and be counted.
 
well do they look motivated no somebody needs to motivate them coley mullers isnt nobody is they look like they have accepted relegation how many shots on target in the last 4 home games i am m,ega peed off going to fes and not even having a shot on target the only one we had was boco and thet was off-side:Banane20: somethings gotta change quick like give tony grant the captaincy a new broom.cause cav wont be back for another 3 weeks and even if he does come back as captain itll just breed more complacency because they are used to him they need a kick up the jacks:Banane54: y
 
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paul mullin is not the chosen captain( but works hard) and cav will be back soon. To be honest i dont think you can just say that if we changed the captain everything will be sorted out. it may help but i dont think it will make th team play alot better. there are other factors that need sorting. One thing isnt gunna help much. stanley need to start changing all the little things which will mount to a big change. I think stanley will stay up. We have players coming back from injury and even though we arnt playing to our full potential at the moment our recent form isnt too bad ( for a team that may be going down). the team will start to gel and understand each other.
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our form isnt bad 4 wins in 17 league games your having a laugh:hititbana
 
Over 40 years we were out of the league unless you've forgotten. What did you think we were just going to walk the league? JC does what he can with a non existent budget and on top off that has lost his most influential players, Craney, Roberts, Barry to bigger clubs and Cav to long term injury.

I agree with some of your points but we do not have a god given right to be at the top of the league. It's always been about survival this year and consolidate our position and build from there.

You need to let the memory of winning most games last season (in the CONFERENCE) out of your heads because the league is a different story. Apart from a few exceptions most of the team haven't played in the football league before.

I don't enjoy watching Stanley struggling but it was always going to be that way this season.
 
Recent form i.e. the last 9 games we have come out with 11 points. We are classed as a team in the relegation fight. For a team that looks like we might go down 11 points is better than none. Therefore our recent form is ok (when classed as a relegation candidate) compared to others near us- Boston and tourquay. you can stay up if you get 11 points in 9 games. If a team drew(gained a point) all their matches they would stay up.
 
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Maverick said:
Over 40 years we were out of the league unless you've forgotten. What did you think we were just going to walk the league? JC does what he can with a non existent budget and on top off that has lost his most influential players, Craney, Roberts, Barry to bigger clubs and Cav to long term injury.

I agree with some of your points but we do not have a god given right to be at the top of the league. It's always been about survival this year and consolidate our position and build from there.

You need to let the memory of winning most games last season (in the CONFERENCE) out of your heads because the league is a different story. Apart from a few exceptions most of the team haven't played in the football league before.

I don't enjoy watching Stanley struggling but it was always going to be that way this season.
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no i havent forgotton this is why it is pivitol we stay in the league .why try and get to the promised land and say it dont matter when it does this is accrington stanleys future but who cares we,ll be happy weve had one season in the league. well im not cause this season will dictate if there is a future or if the club will survive to exist .this is our biggest test to try and attract more supporters the only way we will if we stay up i never thought we would walk this league because what is happening now i predicted way back in august i even suggested we should have gone out and bought a big target man cause paul mullin is too slow and thet he should play just behind the strikers..and whats happened to the money for craney etc
 
Sod ya doom and gloom cmonstanley. Gone too far. The most annoying thing for me in Stanleys current situation is that we are only 3 wins away from midtable - THATS whats griping me - its so close its annoying...

Jimbo T :horn8:blower
 
Spot on Jimbo, Grimsby being the case in point. After getting hammered against Torquay a few weeks ago they've since strung a few wins together and now look to be safe.
 
cmonstanley said:
:( im going to have gripe about yesterdays match and where we are heading.we are heading down unless drastic action is taken .we seem to just pump the ball up to a non existant paul mullin i think its time we had a new captain he doesnt encourage them he doesnt shout out instruction 100% effort is alright if your in the right position how many time did we lose posession when we tried the same old tactics the way we are playing now we are not good enough..and to those people who think it wont be a disaster if we go down take your head out of the sand it will be a disaster because i think the way this team are playing we would struggle in the conference and if we did the wages the players are on with dwindling crowds would bankrupt the club..so its time for action now i dont know what im not the manager bit its decision time for john coleman he could be the manager who took stanley to the league he could also be the manager who killed stanley. i dont see any drastic action from him now but maybe soon thats me finished and anybody who thinks im talking tripe look at other league clubs who have gone out of business...:(
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Haha, so Coley is everybody in accrington that dont bother coming to games? whats Accringtons Population? about 35 thousand? and only 1500 come (and all them arnt all from accy) thats pretty shockin IMHO.

Yes the club i feel could do alot more to attract fans like giving 500 or however many free schoolchildren tickets when we play teams like torquay at home where its never gonna be a big attendance because the kids will go home buzzin they have got a free ticket and keep annoying their mums, dads etc so if a parent comes its £13 already plus a drink or even a chocolate bar at half time, aswell as a possible fan for life, then he goes home and tells hes mates from down the road how good it was then they may come. I know maybe not all the kids will come and many people have said things like this before and nouts been done, but atleast it has been tried and i dont think we have alot to lose by this.
 
Jc has stuck by his mates and he has earned the right to. He has limited resources and cash, so he has done marvelous over the years, but I do feel he has been rather favourable and sentimental to certain players that reached there full potential last season and cannot make the grade at this level. He picks the team and if the players are not good enough and he continues to have faith and belief in these players he is doing his job wrong. End of last season i thought we needed at least 5 every week players to come in, instead we have players playing who never featured last season at all. Once again JC is a great non-league manager , ex player. Good football league manager ????? Keep the faith with his decisions even against most of our gut feelings,opinions because he is in the hot seat not us. If the unthinkable happens, the above points would mean to any other chairman that he has to go. Thats football, no other club carries sentiment if they do they are heading the wrong way.
 
the point works both ways I think, from a players point of view they will give their all for a manager that has shown faith in them. The players got us to the football league and quite rightly deserved the chance to prove themselves in the league.

However, I do agree that football is a business that maybe leaves no room for sentiment and right. It is a hard and bitter pill to swallow for the players and managers that maybe they aren't good enough at this level. If we get away with it by the skin of our teeth then we will have done well, if we dont get away with it then the players that got us out of the Conference will have the chance to do it again.

The fact is though that if you were playing in an ideal world we would keep how many of the present squad? And we would replace the other however many with whom exactly?

We would probably want around 10 players (squad included) and every one of them would have to be better than what we have. Assuming that you all want us to buy these said better players and we were to spend around £50,000 perhaps ....... you do the maths. Probably better a player thats not quite good enough but willing to give his all for a manager he knows and respects than a player who has cost you money (and probably higher wages) and still might not be good enough.

Maybe one of our problems, and inherant from the good name and respect of Accrington Stanley, is that too many players apply to come here in in the summer so we cannot whittle them down well enough, or that we assume we dont need to buy quality because we can find it within the hundreds of trialists we get every year. It is a policy that has served us well for the last six years and will probably continue to do so.

It is a hope that we stay up but if provided we do then next year WILL have better in store for us in this league with a fuller squad and a little more luck. We expected nothing this year and have got next to nowt. We have however took 4 points from a very lively and respected Wycombe team, we have walloped Wrexham twice (now a crap team but feared when we played em the first time) we have beaten Notts Forest and took Premiership Watford to penalties, we have upset Dennis Wise and Paul Ince. Its not been that bad a season surely?

I know league points count for more but we have had highs and lows so far. Coley says that staying up will be a bigger acheivement than promotion so lets party as such when we have the points in the bag!
 
maccawozzagod said:
the point works both ways I think, from a players point of view they will give their all for a manager that has shown faith in them. quote]

Yes, but what if you're a player sat on the bench who knows they're better than the one giving their all out on the pitch? How de-motivating is it to know that an inferior player is getting the nod no matter what you do?

Lets be specific - Welshy's been dropped to make way for the new lad. How many games have we won? Any danger of Rocky being dropped? No, because we will die for the cause and put his head where it hurts. If his technique & positioning was better perhaps we would stop dangerous situations developing?

Loyalty will get the best out of players I agree, but it will seriously p*** off others if it is seen to be misplaced.
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agreed 100% but I think the main reason Rocky is preferred to Welch is that he is more mobile, but again, if people did their jobs properly he wouldn't need to be more mobile.
 
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