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First uploads I’ve attempted hopefully I have done them correctly and you can see them. The Birthday cake Bertha is talking about must have been George’s 21st Birthday in July 1916? He was killed April 11th at Arras 1917 aged 21 years. From the postcard he sent home looks like he thought he would be coming home on 18th April. Like many others he didn’t.

Bertha looks as if she married a James P Morton in 1920 and died Bertha Morton in 1975 ..... Blackburn I think?

Thanks again Retlaw very kind of you.

I’m not sure what AVL 1918 means but I found the same address 34 Church Street. On George Francis Brays war records.

I have not heard of Burgess roll before but will look it up now so thank you as it is obviously the right Bertha.

Thank you again Kozie mystery solved 👍😁
 
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I just remembered something else I wanted to tell you, My Great Grandmother only had a small house in Great Yarmouth and like many she used to take in visitors. Probably for summer holidays by the beach. Berthas father came from Lincolnshire originally which is not too far from Norfolk. Maybe Bertha had been a visitor and that is how she met George? No one ever mentioned her I had not heard of her until I found the photos and postcards in the loft 100 years later. I suppose we will never know for sure but you never know Bertha may have had her own family who are still about in Lancashire. They could recognise her lovely writing? Stranger things have happened?

Happy New Year to you all in ACCRINGTON
 
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First uploads I’ve attempted hopefully I have done them correctly and you can see them. The Birthday cake Bertha is talking about must have been George’s 21st Birthday in July 1916? He was killed April 11th at Arras 1917 aged 21 years. From the postcard he sent home looks like he thought he would be coming home on 18th April. Like many others he didn’t.

Bertha looks as if she married a James P Morton in 1920 and died Bertha Morton in 1975 ..... Blackburn I think?

Thanks again Retlaw very kind of you.

I’m not sure what AVL 1918 means but I found the same address 34 Church Street. On George Francis Brays war records.
I have not heard of Burgess roll before but will look it up now so thank you as it is obviously the right Bertha.

Thank you again Kozie mystery solved 👍😁
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Ey Up Kozie.
AVL-18 = Absent Voters List 1918, I indexed all o Greater Accy's some years back, and there are more holes in them than a string vest, those who think they know of these things, tried to make me believe that soldiers filled in forms, to create the AVL. Hu, you would expect a soldier to know his service number, regmt, & where he lived, then what about prisoners of war, some were classed as missng for months, but best of all are the resurections, two Accy lads were killed in 1916, who filled in their forms.
Burgess Rolls are now known as registers of electors
Have'nt looked at the pictures yet, been busy.
 
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Thanks for the info, must have been a mammoth task indexing the absent voters list for Greater Accy. Resurrections made me laugh. Do you think someone was drawing their pensions
 
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Thanks for the info, must have been a mammoth task indexing the absent voters list for Greater Accy. Resurrections made me laugh. Do you think someone was drawing their pensions
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Don't overdo praising Retlaw - he's nowt else to do.

A family called Bray in nearby Oswaldtwistle had an England footballer init. I've forgotten his name - maybe there were two of them.
 
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Thanks for the info, must have been a mammoth task indexing the absent voters list for Greater Accy. Resurrections made me laugh. Do you think someone was drawing their pensions ��
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Tek no notice of yon Dobbo, and his wise cracks, as for mammoth task, aye eck Kozie, thad were nowt compared to finding all the details of the 12500 and odd men and women of Greater Accrington (Hyndburn) who took the kings shilling in WW1, ave bin at it longer than Dobbo spent plonking his big feet up and down, pretending to be a Copper.
 
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Hi Bob

Thanks for info. I found the two brothers you were talking about.

One called Jackie Bray, played for and Manchester City with Matt Busby when they won the FA Cup. Plus he was an England player. Then a coach for Watford. Then he had a sports shop.

His brother George Bray played for Burnley. I think he played an FA cup too can’t remember what I just read exactly either against Stoke or Charlton Athletic. Not sure if they won. Anyway he played, trained and was a kit man till 1992!

They were both born in Oswaldtwistle.

Not sure if they were related but very interesting all the same.
 
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Accrington Library or Blackburn Library may have a report on the death of these lads, and a list of those attending the funerals - there may be names that you recognise. Accrington will check the Accrington Observer for you, Blackburn will check the Lancashire Evening Telegraph

[email protected] Google the Blackburn library's address

There may be Brays still in Ossie. I'll check the phone book and let you know. I suggest asking the Hyndburn Chat Facebook page.There's an Ossie one too
 
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There are two in Church, next door to Ossie - check the BT phone book for Bray in BB5 and give hem a ring.
 
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