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Saw this in todays Lancs Tel.
That looks like it will attract a lot of flies (experts) as in ex spurt, a drip under pressure. Any body know who these cabinet councillors are.
 

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Surely it's a good thing that the lads & their families of a bygone era are remembered & honoured for their efforts & sacrifices. As long as they stick to facts & consult those who are knowledgeable in the subject it can only be a good thing that the next generations can carry the memories forward.
 
Surely it's a good thing that the lads & their families of a bygone era are remembered & honoured for their efforts & sacrifices. As long as they stick to facts & consult those who are knowledgeable in the subject it can only be a good thing that the next generations can carry the memories forward.
Can't argue with that, the only thing is how will they know the difference, there are some who have so much gob, they can fool the uninitiated into thinking they are the real experts.
Bill & I had to put up with them for years.
 
Aye, valid point, but again it comes down to consultation. If they really want to make this work, they need to be asking questions now as to reliable sources.
 
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Yes it was published last month.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloads/7._Appointment_of_Cabinet_Groups.pdf

See Appendix 3 Page 6.

2 Labour Cabinet Members (Miles and Wendy)
1 Conservative Group Nominee
1 Independents nominee
Mrs Turner, widow of Bill Turner
Representatives of British Legion
Representatives of Other Groups, at the discretion of the Chair
Seems pretty fair to me, but I would certainly have involved Walter on that list, his knowledge is second to none on the subject and shouldn't be ignored
 
Yes it was published last month.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloads/7._Appointment_of_Cabinet_Groups.pdf

See Appendix 3 Page 6.

2 Labour Cabinet Members (Miles and Wendy)
1 Conservative Group Nominee
1 Independents nominee
Mrs Turner, widow of Bill Turner
Representatives of British Legion
Representatives of Other Groups, at the discretion of the Chair
I heard from Ruth Turner last week, that she had been invited to attend a meeting, but they forgot to tell her the time had changed, and she arrived 40 mins late, she said there were over dozen people in the room, she still doesn't know what their intentions are, by her reckoning no one else in the room had any real knowledge of the Pals. She only knew two of those present. What are the British Legion doing there any way, they are, after the cockup they made of Oswaldtwistle's memorial plaques, 3 spelling mistakes, 2 double entries. 4 errors (shouldn't be on) and two men who survived.
 
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I heard from Ruth Turner last week, that she had been invited to attend a meeting, but they forgot to tell her the time had changed, and she arrived 40 mins late, she said there were over dozen people in the room, she still doesn't know what their intentions are, by her reckoning no one else in the room had any real knowledge of the Pals.
She only knew two of those present.
Seems in keeping Walter, what do you expect, from a bunch of know it alls;)
 
I heard from Ruth Turner last week, that she had been invited to attend a meeting, but they forgot to tell her the time had changed, and she arrived 40 mins late, she said there were over dozen people in the room, she still doesn't know what their intentions are, by her reckoning no one else in the room had any real knowledge of the Pals.
She only knew two of those present.
Makes me think they didn't tell her deliberately, then again i'm a cynical get.
 
Makes me think they didn't tell her deliberately, then again i'm a cynical get.
Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.
 
Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.
The simple fact,they trailed n owd lass down fer nowt, Does "NOT" inspire confidence in the competence in these people, as far as i'm concerned.:rolleyes:
 
Looks like there are 2 questions for the Councillors on this site to answer or investigate.

1. Why was Mrs Turner shown so much disrespect over the timing of the meeting?

2. Why has Walter not been included, given that he is the acknowledged expert on the PALS?
 
Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.
Walter you know as well as I do, there's no show without Punch:rolleyes:
 
Looks like there are 2 questions for the Councillors on this site to answer or investigate.

1. Why was Mrs Turner shown so much disrespect over the timing of the meeting?

2. Why has Walter not been included, given that he is the acknowledged expert on the PALS?
And you actually think they will gynn;)
 
Just checked, at least three of our councillors have graced this site with an appearance since Walter made the first post, yet silence is still golden, mind you as usual it won't be anything to do with them, it will be other's who are dealing with it:rolleyes:
 
And you actually think they will gynn;)

I would like to think they will be as interested in the answer as much as anyone else. There is nothing to be gained by being rude to the widow of one of the acknowledged experts on the PALS, and failing to invite another to the meeting. So why was it done?

I can probably save the councillors the trouble, and answer for them, knowing the way such things work at HBC.

Mrs Turner won't have been told the meeting had been changed because nobody thought to tell her. As long as the councillors are informed, nobody else seems to matter to officers. A profuse apology is needed.

Walter won't have been invited because whoever was organising the meeting doesn't have the first clue about the Accrington PALS, and didn't think to do their homework.
 
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I would like to think they will be as interested in the answer as much as anyone else. There is nothing to be gained by being rude to the widow of one of the acknowledged experts on the PALS, and failing to invite another to the meeting. So why was it done?

I can probably save the councillors the trouble, and answer for them, knowing the way such things work at HBC.

Mrs Turner won't have been told the meeting had been changed because nobody thought to tell her. As long as the councillors are informed, nobody else seems to matter to officers. A profuse apology is needed.

Walter won't have been invited because whoever was organising the meeting doesn't have the first clue about the Accrington PALS, and didn't think to do their homework.
Ya gynn think you've hit the nail on the head there, the council being so insular as it is, it was probably a need to know basis and as long as councillors knew, that would be all that mattered:(
 
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Ya gynn think you've hit the nail on the head there, the council being so insular as it is, it was probably a need to know basis and as long as councillors knew, that would be all that mattered:(
From what Ruth said there were over a dozen people there, and an earlier post said 4 councillors, the question still remains, of all those there only Ruth Turner has any personal knowledge of the Accrington Pals, (she met quite a few of the survivors while Bill was researching the Pals), she was the only one not informed of the change of time. Some one wants chastising.
As for me I couldn't give a monkeys. No way will they be allowed free access to Bill Turner's Collection & I don't need any imput from the council, Bill and I managed quite well with the 90th anniversary with out them. As I've quoted before I've already got most of my stuff ready for September 14th 2014, August 2nd 2015 & for July 1st 2016.
Retlaw.
 
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