Heros

Perhaps one of the Councillors who are sometime contributors on here will be gracious enough to answer the questions asked? If they do not have knowledge of the facts then they could always ask of their fellow Councillors?
The crass rudeness shown to Mrs Turner certainly needs an explanation and a public apology, as does the ommission of the recognised expert - retlaw, from the group.
I will not hold my breath waiting to see the apology.
 
Perhaps one of the Councillors who are sometime contributors on here will be gracious enough to answer the questions asked? If they do not have knowledge of the facts then they could always ask of their fellow Councillors?
The crass rudeness shown to Mrs Turner certainly needs an explanation and a public apology, as does the ommission of the recognised expert - retlaw, from the group.
I will not hold my breath waiting to see the apology.

I'll look into Barrie. I wasn't involved with the meeting, but I'm sure there wasn't a deliberate snub to Ruth or Walter. The idea behind the meeting was to look at what we as a Borough can do to commemorate the first world war centenary in two years time.
 
I'll look into Barrie. I wasn't involved with the meeting, but I'm sure there wasn't a deliberate snub to Ruth or Walter. The idea behind the meeting was to look at what we as a Borough can do to commemorate the first world war centenary in two years time.
If that is so, then why were the British Legion & members of the Hysterical Soc invited, I would like to know what knowledge those members have regarding WW1 or the Accrington Pals, sounds like another hot air gathering.
 
Its par for the course with our wonderful council they couldnt organise a pee up in a brewery, the state of the towns represents this. As for needing father's vast knowledge, photo's, lists, etc, why ask when they can nick it like last time! They should be offering an apology to Ruth at the very least, and maybe ask her what Bill would have wanted as a fore runner to the 'celebrations'. Maybe they didn't ask you daddy as they know the response they would get ... it ends in off!!! after all there are the other 'spurts' we know they can ask.
 
I'll look into Barrie. I wasn't involved with the meeting, but I'm sure there wasn't a deliberate snub to Ruth or Walter. The idea behind the meeting was to look at what we as a Borough can do to commemorate the first world war centenary in two years time.

Thank you Bernard for your intention to look into it.
I do think that the organiser(s) should publicly apologise whether or not the rudeness was purely an oversight or just plain downright incompetence.
 
The thing is I actually feel sorry for Walter because I've seen that work he has put in over the last few years carrying on the work started by Bill Taylor and himself some time ago, I know he won't agree but I actually think Walter should get a big thank you for the time and effort he's put into this project, but knowing him like I do he will just say its a labour of love, but if nobody else will I'll say Thank You Walter, for all your efforts, you more than deserve it
 
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Historian names all of the heroic Accrington Pals (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I have attached an article written in the Telegraph last month which sets out the extent of work done by Walter and Bill Turner, and the article indicates that their work would be included in the forthcoming centenary celebrations.

Hopefully the Council can now put things right and ensure Walter and Mrs Turner are given the respect they deserve.
If this was written over a month ago gynn why was Walter ignore and Mrs Turner treated with so much disrespect
 
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I only viewed this thread late yesterday evening but have now e-mailed the Leader of the Council to let him know about the opinions being expressed on Accy Web.
 
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I only viewed this thread late yesterday evening but have now e-mailed the Leader of the Council to let him know about the opinions being expressed on Accy Web.
Judith I think he will already know, plenty of his foot soldiers wonder around on here every day and I'm sure they report back:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Jaysay - Miles Parkinson has responded quickly to my e-mail. He has passed my message to the Member Servcies Manager so that she can "address any matters which need resolving and make sure everyone with initial ideas are included."
 
Having quickly scanned through some of the comments on here I am appauled and offended, but not surprised by some of the usual negative, snidi, nonsense from the usual posters, quick to comment about things they know nowt about and slag off others.
There was absolutely no disrespect, hidden agenda, etc, etc, towards Mrs Turner. It was a genuine oversight and human error. Yes, human error. The meeting time was changed to accommodate ME - an unpaid (working full time) volunteer, who had to take time off work to attend the mtg (and wasnt going to miss it) and not knowing how long it would go on for, was conscious of having to get to work too. Most of those present were/are on email, so mass communication at the press of a button, easy. Mrs Turner was apologised to by the Officer who had arranged the mtg, as did Cllr Pritchard.
It was very clear to me the purpose of the meeting, direction/s to go in, batt ideas about, who's doing what tasks, identify anyone else who might have constructive input to be invited.
It was the first meeting of the group, no one's been excluded, no hidden agendas, no preconceived ideas, etc, etc, etc. Yes, known interested & obvious individuals were invited along.
I do not profess to be a Pal's expert, only a mere relative of one, but was there as a community volunteer with lots of ideas, which i put forward, together with 3 handcrafted models. Blue peter at it's best with double sided sticky tape, staples and card ! Some of these ideas I've had burning a hole in my brain for some years and this is the ideal opportunity to try and make them a reality.
The Council are keen to honour the centenary of the Battle of the Somme and the build up to 01/07/2016. They have asked for community involvement and ideas - they do not claim and never do, to know all about the Pals.
Father hasnt been ignored, over looked or anything else. Cllr Dwyer spoke with him twice and asked him twice to come along but he didnt want to.
Father - I briefed you after the meeting and since about what's gone/going on. The meeting was 16 July. LET are a bit behind as usual.
Cllr Parkinson doesnt do passing of book, he's a genuine, sincere chap with the good of Hyndburn at heart. He doesnt do show boating or blowing own trumpets- not his style.
Doing nothing achieves nothing and that's not an option. So constructive input and comment welcome to make the centenary a success. It's easy to sit a criticise. Actually doing something constructive and contributing requires a little more effort !
We are the most famous town in the world and I want the world to be reminded of that - we got a mention at the Olympics opening ceremony for chuffing out loud.
 
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Wallop - well reminded about the nicking. I forgot to add, that I did state at the meeting that HBC (officers), have poached and re-produced copyrighted document/s belonging to Father. I'd forgotten about that. I checked with the copyright people (cant remember who they are) and they confirmed my understanding/interpretation of copyrighted work.
 
Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.

Having quickly scanned through some of the comments on here I am appauled and offended, but not surprised by some of the usual negative, snidi, nonsense from the usual posters, quick to comment about things they know nowt about and slag off others.
There was absolutely no disrespect, hidden agenda, etc, etc, towards Mrs Turner. It was a genuine oversight and human error. Yes, human error. The meeting time was changed to accommodate ME - an unpaid (working full time) volunteer, who had to take time off work to attend the mtg (and wasnt going to miss it) and not knowing how long it would go on for, was conscious of having to get to work too. Most of those present were/are on email, so mass communication at the press of a button, easy. Mrs Turner was apologised to by the Officer who had arranged the mtg, as did Cllr Pritchard.

Father hasnt been ignored, over looked or anything else. Cllr Dwyer spoke with him twice and asked him twice to come along but he didnt want to.
Father - I briefed you after the meeting and since about what's gone/going on. The meeting was 16 July. LET are a bit behind as usual.
Well now yeh had yer rant, I am appalled n offended by your referral to the usual snidey negative comments etc, The regulars on here are people that keep forums going, "NOT" part timers like you.:( Yeh can bleat all yeh want, The fact the owd lass was not told is "Disrespectful" Human error or not, n also the fact yer dad, who is one of the regulars on here, posted the opposite view to you about being invited. So shove that in yer pipe n smoke it.:rolleyes:
 
Oh n heres summat i forgot to add, Perhaps theres a bit of guilt in yer rant? seeing how yeh are the reason the time of meeting was changed.:rolleyes:
 
Dusty, I'm astonished at your reaction to the posters on this thread.I've been following it and like the posters was feeling sorry for your father who was obviously feeling left out of a project where his knowledge would have been invaluable.
Every post has been supportive of him and unhappy at how he felt he and Mrs.Turner had been treated.
If you briefed him after the meeting either you didn't explain the position to him properly or he didn't understand.
Either way, I think you should be thanking the posters for their full hearted support of him. The fact that their comments were based on misinformation was hardly their fault.
If anyone should be 'appalled and offended' it should be them.
If you have any grace about you would apologise!
 
Dusty, I'm astonished at your reaction to the posters on this thread.I've been following it and like the posters was feeling sorry for your father who was obviously feeling left out of a project where his knowledge would have been invaluable.
Every post has been supportive of him and unhappy at how he felt he and Mrs.Turner had been treated.
If you briefed him after the meeting either you didn't explain the position to him properly or he didn't understand.
Either way, I think you should be thanking the posters for their full hearted support of him. The fact that their comments were based on misinformation was hardly their fault.
If anyone should be 'appalled and offended' it should be them.
If you have any grace about you would apologise!
Think you'll be waiting a long time for that Gordon, maybe 12 months for his next visit:rolleyes:
 
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Jaysay - Miles Parkinson has responded quickly to my e-mail. He has passed my message to the Member Servcies Manager so that she can "address any matters which need resolving and make sure everyone with initial ideas are included."
As I said before Judith, Cllr. Parkinson will have been quite aware of what was being said on here well before your Email, believe me:rolleyes:
 
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