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How does this happen? when are the airy fairy do gooders going to learn? Woops this may be negative, Lucky I posted it before the 18th.

Egyptian-born Tariq Ramadan has been banned from the US for endorsing terrorism. France has also barred him. An Islamic academic who says suicide bombings are justified will preach to young Muslims in London at a conference funded by British taxpayers,
 
maybe he can persuade a few more english muslims to attack another city we are 4 short now afterall and the police obviously feel we need to replace them :mad:
 
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Makes you sick.

We are the world's doormat for every scrote to wipe their feet on. Our immigration policies,[do we have any?] are appalling.

I missed this story, where is the funding coming from?
 
chav1 said:
maybe he can persuade a few more english muslims to attack another city we are 4 short now afterall and the police obviously feel we need to replace them :mad:

I wouldn’t be too concerned about numbers, there’s at least 500 thousand illegals unaccounted for. I have little doubt that some will fill the gaps. My concern is what about the memories about those who lost their lives and the feelings of those left behind? This is a National Disgrace and someone in our Government should pay the highest political price and resign……
 
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Before long there will be a revolution in the UK. Either that or we will actually start seeing westerners turning to terrorism and bombing places of religion of these people and other places associated with the people who our government seem so keen to protect.
People are becoming fed up of being victims. Our government seem happy to protect these people. Our government will soon need protecting from their own people if they are not carefull.
 
your absolutely correct it is a kick in the teeth to the victims , their familys and basicly every person who is british
 
Roy said:
Before long there will be a revolution in the UK. Either that or we will actually start seeing westerners turning to terrorism and bombing places of religion of these people and other places associated with the people who our government seem so keen to protect.
People are becoming fed up of being victims. Our government seem happy to protect these people. Our government will soon need protecting from their own people if they are not carefull.

What worries me Roy is I think you might be right and thats one hell of a frightening thought……
 
Doug said:
What worries me Roy is I think you might be right and thats one hell of a frightening thought……

yeah chavs with c4 and rocket launchers is a scary thought
 
chav1 said:
yeah chavs with c4 and rocket launchers is a scary thought

You would be better off befriending a 9 mm and let the boys with the big guns lead the way….No disrespect, what the hell’s a chav?...

Cashman, get it said.
 
Our poor border control is to blame for the number of illegal aliens in this country......and although the government tell us that they BELIEVE there are something like 570,000 illegals in the country.... they actually havent got a clue how many there may be......it could be double or even treble that number.

All these disaffected young muslims.......if they don't like what is happening in this country then they should perhaps leave and go to Saudi.....or Pakistan.....or Afghanistan........and if they are the holders of British passports...let them emigrate to where ever they feel they would be better treated.

And it is about time the government got rid of the clerics that are spouting hatred and inciting racial violence.......you can bet if it was a methodist or Cof E vicar doing all the saop-boxing, they would be locked up.
 
just let me say that if any muslims who hold british passports by being born here or have got them through marrage or been granted citizenship and they want to go and "fight" the aggressors of Islam (i.e. our troops) then they sohuld have to hand in their BRITISH passport and lose citizenship, and all of the rights that is allowed (i.e. FREE treatment on NHS etc) of this country and not allowed to return unless they are willing to be tried for TREASON and NOT complaining IF found guilty and jailed for life or DEPORTED. Bring on the ID Cards and lets see if that will help make th UK a safe place to live, travel and work in.
 
Ber999T said:
just let me say that if any muslims who hold british passports by being born here or have got them through marrage or been granted citizenship and they want to go and "fight" the aggressors of Islam (i.e. our troops) then they sohuld have to hand in their BRITISH passport and lose citizenship, and all of the rights that is allowed (i.e. FREE treatment on NHS etc) of this country and not allowed to return unless they are willing to be tried for TREASON and NOT complaining IF found guilty and jailed for life or DEPORTED. Bring on the ID Cards and lets see if that will help make th UK a safe place to live, travel and work in.



I have to say that this is the view of alot of people i know sad though it may sound.

It's not very nice when every time i see a muslim dressed with a beard and in all his praying gear on it makes me VERY nervous, its not nice and it should'nt have to be like that!

I dont class myself as racist but i do find it strange the way they are allowed to live as if they are still in their own country following their own ways of life but in our country Eg:

they build mosques here but we would never be allowed to build a church in their country and you see the signs now in shops to take off your helmet when coming Friend or Foe we dont know but yet the women can walk around in an outfit where you can only see their eyes? It just dont make sence.

If they want to live as if they were in there own country following their own rules in their tight nit communitys then they might as well go back on their own land and do it.

I know that all sounded a bit harsh but thats the way i feel at the moment i know its a minority that has caused the bombings but then you get type cast i cant look at any of them and know for sure they are not going to blow me up!!

I know there are good and bad amongst us all and i dont mean to be rude or offensive but its just when people are doing the evil things they are doing.
 
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Try to see it from a muslim point of view. Muslims are horrified that such atrocities can be conducted in the name of Islam. These suicide bombers are not the typical muslim. It's like seeing all white Christians as IRA bombers. Not all Christians are Catholics and not all Catholics are Irish and not all Irish Catholics are IRA bombers. It's the same with Muslims.

I may lose karma points for this but I feel for the families who are reeling in shock and horror to have learned that their son/husband/brother was behind one of the bombings. These people grew up in this country and for most of their lives appeared to "conform" more to the western way of life than their parents did/do.

These men spoke English with Yorkshire accents. They were born here. They went to school here. Somewhere along the lines they were misguided by extremists and ended up believing that dying in a suicide bomb was a noble thing to do.

I spoke to someone yesterday who said she was afraid to sit near a muslim on a train and I said I had just come up from town on a bus sitting next to a muslim guy who lives down the road and I don't see him any diffrently today than I did last week before the bombings. Her reply to that was "That's different. You are talking about someone you know." But these suicide bombers were "someone people knew". They were ordinary people, living very ordinary lives.

What I'm trying to say is that it isn't people who are "different". These guys were far less different than a non-English speaking robes wearing person who you may see as not fitting in with our way of life.

One of the great things about this country is our freedom which includes freedom of religion. It doesn't worry me that across the road from my church there is a mosque. We have a pretty good relationship with the mosque. When we've not been using our car park and they need extra parking space we have let them use it. Why not? Co-operation and understanding is what we need. We might need the extra parking spac ourselves one day and ask them for a loan of a bit of theirs.

I know I've grumbled about having to bend over backwards to please others but I don't think it's actually the immigrant population who make demands so much as the PC brigade who presume things. Like the idea that celebrating Christmas offends muslims. it doesn't offend any muslims I know. The local PO is owned by muslims and they have a lovely selection of Christmas cards at Christmas. I got some of my nicest ones fom there. They put decorations up and wish people "merry Christmas". We get Christmas cards from muslim friends.

Yesterday I attended a school leavers assembly at Springhill CP where my youngest daughter attends. (She leaves this year). The majority of pupils there are muslim. ALL the children, brown, white, pink and yellow stood proudly together to sing "We are the young" and it brought a lump to many throats and a tear to many eyes. I live in hope that the future will be safe in their hands and that we have taught them well enough to give them the strength to make it so.

I can see the objection some people have to the "severe" form of muslim dress where a woman is totally covered apart from her eyes and I can see where this may lead to fear and suspicion but I can also understand what it means to someone to have a deep religious conviction about a dress code. I'm LDS and we have a dress code, not as severe and not all members adhere to it (just as all muslim women don't wear the total outfit) but those who do and to whom it means a lot would rather suffer almost anything than compromise that. To others that may not make any sense at all but it helps me understand where those muslims are coming from even if I don't share their beliefs.

I hope that we can all grow stronger together and work together to eliminate this evil from our midst because we all suffer because of it.

I have just read in the paper an article by a muslim leader declaring that the bombers have sullied the name of Islam and that they have no right to claim it as their religion. He isn't the only one who feels that way. They have the same commandments which include "thou shalt not kill" It's amazing that throughout history people of Jewish, Christian and Islamic religions have found excuses to disobey that commandment and even convince themselves that they have God's blessing.

To quote Bob Dylan "I cannot think for you, you will have to decide, whether Judas Iscariot had God on HIS side"

Ooops, well there's my political speech for the day.
 
i travel through customs 3 or 4 times a year and it is at least 2 years since there was anyone on duty when we came through,theres something wrong with a system that allows this to happen. i'm talking about the exits when you have collected your cases from the carosel,i have seen someone in the RED exit,but no-one in the green or blue,that makes me worry a bit,so i must agree with margaret about border controls being poor,this is slightly differant i know-but the scenario is the same.
 
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