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Listen, if Coleman leaves I am 100% sure it will be of his own accord and good luck to him.


If JC hadn't found all the players he had through his contacts imagine where the club would be then?? Nowhere.

Accrington Stanley is very very lucky to have John Coleman IMO and if people start asking questions of him I wouldn't blame him in the slightest for walking away. I have no doubt whatsoever that he would get fixed up at another good club in no time.

Thanks Staveros for your disagreeing karma comment:D hey we all have an opinion, but i really dont think he's made for league management as is Erics finances - just the way it is been this season, even him himself didnt bank on the difficulty & pressure of league management. Football is dog eat dog to survive certainly in lower leagues, but i dont think the club has backed him well either IMHO!! You only had to look/hear the match today to know that - Coley arguing with ref upon half time then 2nd half up at the stand, leaving Jimmy in dugout dealings by phone even he nearly walked!!! What impression is that giving [yeh we are all passionate about ASFC] but is that behaviour at this level & with this contentious game what must of that said to the players!!

I agree with sparkie about the club attraction & that doesn't help Coley with minimal pay/deal. We cant be doing long balls all the time, we need good passing play to create chances, too many high balls not a good advantage to our team with mully our only tallest asset as has happened previous matches. Im not calling Coleys head but a serious hard look at our team play certainly for our next 2 home matches - thats his priority atm, this FA thingy has seriously effected everyone concerned with ASFC & fans - even the players when ebb isn't high anyway.

It depends on your point of view whether we stop living the past & get on with asfc's football future, if that should mean improvements at high level down to low level within the club infrastructure then so be it, do we want to be in the league or go back to non league???? I think that needs to be answered & will with the 9 games remaining.

I hope & pray to stay in league 2 - we all fought hard & long for it:D
 
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lets make it a cup final atmosphere have accy pipe band get coley to walk round the ground before kick off to gee the crowd up ...:Banane12:
 
Re Coleman.

I was not caught up in the euphoria that would've prevailed here (forum)and in Accrington after the success of 2005/06,so I was not putting JC on the highest pedestal around,(although I'm sure I would've).But as a relative outsider looking in,and to a lesser degree as an ex businessman,I have no hesitation in saying that if I was made chairman tomorrow.Coleman would be gone- pronto.Football is like any other business-results must be obtained.No reults-no job.I think Eric must be at his wits end 'cause I would guess he knows he should do something,but maybe he has got to close to JC in the last 7 (?) years.

Nothing personal towards Mr Coleman,just my thoughts.
 
How on earth can anyone think sacking the manager is the solution?The two best players have been sold,and Coley has had peanuts to spend.How does anyone know what he could have done with a little money?No top manager is going to come here anyhow,harsh but true.Its looking very grim at the moment,but best of luck anyway.By the way,person who suggested KK,time to sober up-he would want more a week than Coley gets in a year.
 
In my heart i would love stanley to stay up but i honestly feel even if we put some sort of points gathering run together now it may all be in vain depending if/when and how many points we get taken away?
I do not know what the answer is, would we do better without JC? IMO no,any manager that did come (because of the money situation)would probably be some out of work no hoper and i do not think we would be any better off.
The fans (the one,s that can be bothered to turn up anyway) have shown their passion for ASFC remember Bury and Rochdale away superb, lets give the boys the same support at the FES and at least try and lift the gloom,at the end of the day even if we do go down lets go with our heads held high and look to the future (cos we will be back),hopefully with JC at the helm, IMO we have had nothing but bad luck this season with injuries and suspensions and to be honest i have not seen any side at the FES this season that we have not been capable of beating but we have not had the breaks and if lady luck aint on your side what chance have you got.
So come on stanley heads up and if we gotta go lets do it with style so people remember ACCRINGTON STANLEY in the league for the right reasons.
COME ON STANLEY, COME ON STANLEY,COME ON STANLEY,COME ON STANLEY,COME ON STANLEY,COME ON STANLEY
 
You are quite right Sparkie. I haven't posted for several weeks after warning of exactly what is happening. I still stand by everything I said and what you have stated. We are an amateur club playing in a professional game. Eric Whalley and John Coleman have done a brilliant job over the last seven years in achieving the accolades that we have won and reaching League status BUT
the time has come to think seriously of the future. We all have our limitations
and I personally think that these have been reached by the Chairman and the Manager. The way forward, short term is to spend some money on players that can help us out of our predicament and keep us in League 2 and hope that it is not a little too late. Long term is to allow investment from other interested parties that are prepared to plough money into the club i.e. players and facilities. Rumour has it that several people have approached Mr Whalley with the offer of financial help but this has been refused, WHY? Is it that he wants to retain full control regardless the harm that it may do the club? As to the running of the club, we need experienced professional people in situ who can promote / market Accrington Stanley as a club 'that wouldn't die' . To do this we also need players of a calibre that are capable of winning more games than they lose. I appreciate this all costs money but where has the money gone that was received from transfer fees, sponsorships etc. - certainly not on the ground improvements i.e. the 4 years in waiting for the Clayton End roof which once again rumour has it that this will never happen. Yes A lot of rumours, but unless the club quash them then, for me, there is no smoke without fire. Finally as to asking the people of Accrington to turn out and support their local team, only the die hards will be there week in,week out, yes me included, to watch a losing team. Sadly the fighting spirit has gone and it shows both in the players and supporters. I do not blame the players because the majority of them are out of their depth, why hasn't the team been strengthened only by has beens or very inexperienced players?

No doubt I will receive back lash for my comments but I will sleep tonight knowing I have aired my views and opinions . I cannot hide my disappointment of waiting 44 years to return to the Football League - to be relagated after one season without putting up much of a fight. I have no doubt we will the brunt of many a joke in the coming years if we are not already.
 
No doubt I will receive back lash for my comments but I will sleep tonight knowing I have aired my views and opinions . I cannot hide my disappointment of waiting 44 years to return to the Football League - to be relagated after one season without putting up much of a fight. I have no doubt we will the brunt of many a joke in the coming years if we are not already.

Why do you think you'll suffer a backlash? You haven't written anything that I and others haven't said already.

Serious mistakes have been made this season and continue to be made. There'll be a queue of jokers lining up to poke fun at the club, but what's new?
 
You are quite right Sparkie. I haven't posted for several weeks after warning of exactly what is happening. I still stand by everything I said and what you have stated. We are an amateur club playing in a professional game. Eric Whalley and John Coleman have done a brilliant job over the last seven years in achieving the accolades that we have won and reaching League status BUT
the time has come to think seriously of the future. We all have our limitations
and I personally think that these have been reached by the Chairman and the Manager. The way forward, short term is to spend some money on players that can help us out of our predicament and keep us in League 2 and hope that it is not a little too late. Long term is to allow investment from other interested parties that are prepared to plough money into the club i.e. players and facilities. Rumour has it that several people have approached Mr Whalley with the offer of financial help but this has been refused, WHY? Is it that he wants to retain full control regardless the harm that it may do the club? As to the running of the club, we need experienced professional people in situ who can promote / market Accrington Stanley as a club 'that wouldn't die' . To do this we also need players of a calibre that are capable of winning more games than they lose. I appreciate this all costs money but where has the money gone that was received from transfer fees, sponsorships etc. - certainly not on the ground improvements i.e. the 4 years in waiting for the Clayton End roof which once again rumour has it that this will never happen. Yes A lot of rumours, but unless the club quash them then, for me, there is no smoke without fire. Finally as to asking the people of Accrington to turn out and support their local team, only the die hards will be there week in,week out, yes me included, to watch a losing team. Sadly the fighting spirit has gone and it shows both in the players and supporters. I do not blame the players because the majority of them are out of their depth, why hasn't the team been strengthened only by has beens or very inexperienced players?

No doubt I will receive back lash for my comments but I will sleep tonight knowing I have aired my views and opinions . I cannot hide my disappointment of waiting 44 years to return to the Football League - to be relagated after one season without putting up much of a fight. I have no doubt we will the brunt of many a joke in the coming years if we are not already.

No backlash here, what u said is the truth of it & think most of us have aired simular views & feelings about it too just hope theres a turnaround soon before its far too late & if we are fortunate by footy god then those very things need a serious consideration indeed.
 
I think that if the club is relegated it will again lose ground to its bigger neighbours in terms of attracting the next generation of Stanley fans.

Promotion to the league was a chance to put that right and the management, teams and supporters able to attend must do all that is humanly possible to stop this happening in the remaining 9 games.
 
ill try again i know we are not very happy and all this doom and gloom this is time to stand up and be counted while coley and eric are here and its still to stay up we should get behind the team 100% this saturday against torquay cmon john inspire the players this is the first of many cup finals cmon eric its not he population of hynburns fault its high rents and mortgages and higher cost of living give the population of hyndburn a break make this saturday and reduce prices to a fiver or even fill the coppice end with school kids with some flags make it a real home game restrict torquay to the away shed get coley to walk round the pitch to gee up the crowd get accy pipe band. you are legendry status make yourself ultra legendry invite the community of hynburn to the fes the worst thing in the world is frustration ..i should have done that..at least in the future you could say i tried evrything cmon everybody make this saturday a time to remmember we need your support
cmonstanley cmon
 
Though I was very disappointed in the way we played yesterday at Swindon, we must all remember that we are not down yet !!!

We have nine matches in which to redeem ourselves - and though we have four very difficult away games ahead (Walsall, Hartlepool,Shrewsbury and MK Dons), those teams will also be feeling nervy for quite different reasons.They can just as easily play as badly as we can ! :D

Don't give up hope everyone - we can still stay up - and if we do, I am sure that next season will be completely different after a summer in which to reflect.

COME ON STANLEY !!!! YOU CAN DO IT !!!! :Banane07: :Banane07: :Banane07:
 
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