It makes it even more credible in a way, coming from Jack Straw because many of the voters who elected him in Blackburn were likely to be Asians
Jack Straw, Racist or Correct?
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It makes it even more credible in a way, coming from Jack Straw because many of the voters who elected him in Blackburn were likely to be Asians
As perhaps are people, (Priests), of 'Christian', religions?
Girls & women are vulnerable this is proved when they turn up dead!
Perhaps it's time instead of demanding equality, (we know that doesn't work, you lasses are too clever),
That an escort home from friend or family should again become normal?
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not making any excuses for the abuse , but has anyone done a study to find if there is a common factor amongst the girls who are being targeted .....how many come from "homes" with no proper family structure . The mention that Asian girls aren't being targeted could be that their parents/families don't allow them to get into situations where "bad" things could happen. ......... bit like the (US) TV ad.... "It's 10 o clock , do you know where your kids are"
Why are they advertising it then, and don't claim its fashion, girls can be fashionable without flaunting it.
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Some, though not all the victims, could be described as being vunerable, in that they are in care.
You're right about one thing though. It is no excuse.
You're right.
The dirty little slags are asking for it, and deserve everything they get.
Girls should be modest, and cover themselves, if they don't want gang raping.
Fashion from 1945.
There were probably some, brought up under Victorian prudery, who labelled such young women as 'immoral'.
Sadder still, there were probably a minority, who on hearing such a girl had been attacked, would say someone exhibiting bare arms and legs was asking to be raped.
Sad really, when victims of child abuse have their home backgrounds questioned, and what they happened to be wearing, instead of what is much more important. That being the fact that these men see these children as being worthless human beings, deserving of vile gang rape.
Always thought you were an intelligent man until I read that rubbish.
Why do you think they were advertising and what were they wearing when attacked?
I think we may be getting a little sidetracked by the dress aspect here, the root of the problem is the fact that these girls have been enticed into a very dangerous & sinister situation that has been ongoing prior to Police intervention in Dec 2008. Since the inception of "Operation Retriever" it transpires the abusers are from a Pakistani background & that is a fact, no amount of mitigation can change that so there is no racial question to answer it is purely crime & punishment.
‘Operation Retriever’ busts Sex Gang for abusing vulnerable girls | Newsnet 14
‘Operation Retriever’ busts Sex Gang for abusing vulnerable girls | Newsnet 14
Please yourself, why do you think they dress like that, to attract other girls, No to show their sex appeal, that they have more umph, than the others. I still say there is no need for them to be strutting around 1/2 naked, and not expecting a result.
None of my daugters were allowed out dressed like that, and they were banned from entering pubs & clubs.
Retlaw.
Not sure how Jack Straw can be racist for stating fact, some may not be too comfy about it but it’s going on.
As far as a female being seen as “easy meat” or asking for it because of the clothes they wear just doesn’t wash.
On holiday lots of women go topless, are they to be viewed as “easy” ? Some use nudist beaches, some are more adventurous and do the sex party scene it’s their choice, it doesn’t mean they want to be violated and it certainly doesn’t give anyone the right to do so.
As far as a female being seen as “easy meat” or asking for it because of the clothes they wear just doesn’t wash.
On holiday lots of women go topless, are they to be viewed as “easy” ? Some use nudist beaches, some are more adventurous and do the sex party scene it’s their choice, it doesn’t mean they want to be violated and it certainly doesn’t give anyone the right to do so.
What else is new, they deny every thing, even when its under their noses and proven. Just goes to show how much these asian leaders know or are in control of their followers.
Retlaw.
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When you put the full story, maybe i am bang out of order ,,perhaps i am living in the past ,i didnt mean to be quite so rude,,,but the dress sense and the language of some girls today is to say at the very least,,eye opening,,,,,
There is a huge difference between your vicar and an imam.
The imams have a vast influence in their community......therefore the power to influence the male population.
They aren't just religious leaders they are respected in their community and are seen as wise.
The muslim religion is different too.....the children are inculcated(some would say brainwashed) into the dogmas of the faith as soon as they can talk....some would say, as soon as they are born as the newborn child has a prayer whispered into its ear as soon as possible after it is born.
Granny I know what you are saying, but it still doesn't excuse the men......they(in lots of cases) drugged or plied the girls with alcohol so that they couldn't resist, they isolated them from any friends and family that they might have, and then they used threats and intimidation in order to sexually abuse the girls.......and this is a very serious situation.
It has been going on for a number of years.......the LET highlighted it a couple of years ago and still it is happening.
It is not before time that Jack Straw has woken up to this fact.
True, but you can question a culture that prizes the 'purity' of it's own female relatives, but with some quite happy to rape girls as young as eleven, who happen to be from a differing cultural background.
Anyone who doesn't think this grooming/abuse isn't rife is deluded.
There are as many as ten 'slag houses' (rented properties used as drinking/smoking/gang banging dens) within five miles of Accy Town Hall.
but with some quite happy to rape girls as young as eleven, who happen to be from a differing cultural background.
think this could also apply to many "Brits" who travel to the far-east for a bit of "lads fun"
There are as many as ten 'slag houses' (rented properties used as drinking/smoking/gang banging dens) within five miles of Accy Town Hall
same old story , same as drugs , a local ten year old can tell where the local 'crack' house is , but the authoritys have a problem finding them, wonder why
re. my earlier post about the family circumstances of these kids ,which you seemed to take umbrage too, the point I was making was that if the parents/caregivers of these kids were 'on the ball' some of this abuse could have been prevented
but with some quite happy to rape girls as young as eleven, who happen to be from a differing cultural background.
think this could also apply to many "Brits" who travel to the far-east for a bit of "lads fun"
There are as many as ten 'slag houses' (rented properties used as drinking/smoking/gang banging dens) within five miles of Accy Town Hall
same old story , same as drugs , a local ten year old can tell where the local 'crack' house is , but the authoritys have a problem finding them, wonder why
re. my earlier post about the family circumstances of these kids ,which you seemed to take umbrage too, the point I was making was that if the parents/caregivers of these kids were 'on the ball' some of this abuse could have been prevented
I quite agree. Sex tourists, those who exploit those from third world countries, could also be classed as racially motivated, in that they target the economically vunerable from poor countries.
I really don't see what the child victims wore, or their family background has to do with these crimes.
Raping children is wrong, full stop.
In the real world even children from two parent families, with a home with a picket fence, and roses round the door, can't be kept under lock and key 24/7, in that most have to venture out into the world, to attend school etc.
Jack Straw is partly correct, but I wonder how many cases have their been of this? Asian men grooming and then abusing these young girls? As far as I can see it's not a frequent event, but I don't know all the statistics.
You often see groups of girls aged from about 12 up to 16 at night standing on house estates - this is the parents fault and they are obviously from dysfuntional familes, perhaps with single mothers etc. These are the type of kids targeted. It's the fact of the difference in contemporary British cultural values compared to those of Asian ones.